A quick wizard question?


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Grand Lodge

So I am looking at making a water specialist wizard. This means my "opposed school" would be fire. My question is, what if a spell is on both lists? (eg on my water list as well as the fire list, such as the summon monsters?)

I could see the justification that it would cost 2 spells slots if I wanted to summon a fire elemental but that doesn't quite fit with the rest of the rules.

Thanks ahead of time for the help.


If the spell is on your list it costs one slot to prepare, regardless of what other lists it might appear on.

Dark Archive

I think they work like universal spells for regular specialists. No special advantage or restriction to using them, but I might look as a water caster funny if he started summoning fire elementals.

Sczarni

I thought that if you summoned a lawful good celestial, or a chaotic evil fiend, that the summon spell you used gained the descriptor of that alignment, and that, similarly, summoning an elemental gave the spell that summoned it the descriptor of that element. So summoning a fire elemental, thus making the spell of the fire descriptor, would take up two slots for you, but summoning a water elemental would not.

Dark Archive

It doesn't gain that descriptor until the moment you complete casting, so I don't see how it could restrict how you prepare your spells.


RAW I believe Dust Raven is correct.
RAI I would mostly go with Nefreet arguing that the spell prepared using one slot doesn't have the oomph to successfully cast an opposed summoning.

Dark Archive

DeltaOneG wrote:

RAW I believe Dust Raven is correct.

RAI I would mostly go with Nefreet arguing that the spell prepared using one slot doesn't have the oomph to successfully cast an opposed summoning.

I would rule the same actually. It would just be weird otherwise.

Grand Lodge

Thanks again guys. Delta that is a good way of putting it, and what I will pitch to the DM as the purposed solution.

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