Zen Archer, Nonlethal Damage, and Unarmed Arrows


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Alright, under Improved Unarmed Strike it says you can choose as to whether you do lethal or non-lethal damage, correct?

And the Zen Archer gets the ability to use unarmed strike damage instead of his arrow damage, correct?

So would that mean a Zen Archer using this ability could easily choose to deal nonlethal damage with his bow?


Next time, please include the various rules texts relevant to your question. In this case...

Zen Archer: Ki Arrows wrote:
At 5th level, a zen archer may spend 1 point from his ki pool as a swift action to change the damage dice of arrows he shoots to that of his unarmed strikes. This lasts until the start of his next turn. For example, a Medium zen archer’s short bow normally deals 1d6 damage; using this ability, his arrows deal 1d8 damage until the start of his next turn.

Seems pretty clear to me. All you're changing is the dice.


If you want to do non-lethal damage with a bow, take the Bludgeoner feat and use blunt arrows. As a Zen Archer, you should have feats to spare.


Oladon wrote:

Next time, please include the various rules texts relevant to your question. In this case...

Zen Archer: Ki Arrows wrote:
At 5th level, a zen archer may spend 1 point from his ki pool as a swift action to change the damage dice of arrows he shoots to that of his unarmed strikes. This lasts until the start of his next turn. For example, a Medium zen archer’s short bow normally deals 1d6 damage; using this ability, his arrows deal 1d8 damage until the start of his next turn.

Seems pretty clear to me. All you're changing is the dice.

So what if you were to declare your unarmed strike damage dice to be non-lethal and then change the arrow damage dice to the unarmed strike damage dice? That wouldn't work?


Dice don't have a damage type; attacks do. So no.

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