Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Armor cannot be constructed from obsidian. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.
My question is:
What do they mean by magically strengthened?
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.
Thank you all ahead of time.
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Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Armor cannot be constructed from obsidian. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.My question is:
What do they mean by magically strengthened?
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.
Thank you all ahead of time.
Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.
It costs absolutely nothing, as you can't make it.
Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Armor cannot be constructed from obsidian. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.My question is:
What do they mean by magically strengthened?
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.
Thank you all ahead of time.
Obsidian weapons with magical qualities (enhancement bonuses, flaming burst, etc.) are not fragile.
Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Armor cannot be constructed from obsidian. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.My question is:
What do they mean by magically strengthened?
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.
Thank you all ahead of time.
It costs absolutely nothing, as you can't make it.Under Obisdian it says:
The fragile glass nature of obsidian is perfect for creating sharp points and blades, but those same qualities make it unsuitable for creating armor. Magically strengthened obsidian does not have the fragile quality, and can be made into any armor or weapon that can be made of stone.
However it does state that it can be magically strengthened, and that magically strengthened obsidian can be made into armor if that armor can be made out of stone.
Can anyone help with the first question? are they meaning just making it magical? or is there something else to it?
Derp. Reading is hard, yo.
In that case, it probably is definitely as Nefreet suggested (though it would be 1150 for masterwork + magic, for a total of 1900g).
When I hit that declarative statement I stopped and had the same conclusion you did. Poorly written text.
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.If you know that obsidian is 50% the cost, and full plate is 1500gp, then obsidian plate would be 750gp. Just add 1300gp for masterwork and magical.
Since you'd be making it from Stone Plate, not Full Plate, the base cost would be 1800gp, not 1500gp.
Also note that you're now working with a Hardness of half that of Stone, or 4. Which isn't great for armor, if anyone tries to sunder or if you roll a 1 on a save.
You're looking for this: Hardening spell. Its permanent duration makes it good for this sort of thing and at 6th level it's far more practical than its 8th level ancestor Glassteel, which was one of the more overleveled spells in the old game (although easily overshadowed by the 9th level Crystalbrittle).
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What do they mean by magically strengthened?
What would be the cost of an obsidian Stone plate knowing that obsidian usually costs 50 percent of the original value.
What they mean by magically strengthened is that you have to specifically magically treat it to be stronger than usual:
Items made from these materials can be magically strengthened at an additional cost of 100gp per pound. See the individual material descriptions for the effect this has on the material's properties.
The magical strengthening they are talking about is not the same thing as being magical/enchanted - it is an additional cost. Some materials specify that any magical enhancement has the effect of removing the fragile quality ("masterwork bone armour also has the fragile quality, but magic bone armour does not"), but since obsidian refers specifically to being "magically strengthened" you will need to use this specific process rather than just giving the armour a +1.
So, the cost will be:
900 (half the cost of stone plate)
+5625gp (magical strengthening costs 100*56.25 lbs for obsidian stone plate)
= 6575 gp before masterwork or magical enhancement, which are added normally.
Yes, that's a very bad deal.
So its extremely expensive to have some awesome looking light armor. Unless your going with +5 enchantments, which would make the cost of 6575 good pieces negligible
It's too bad that hardening spell is not pathfinder. We can't use anything from 3.5!
but it is a 3.5 and has not been converted.
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Fine Print, Definitely not RAW, but RAI
What book is it in?
And it has been removed from PFS allowance.
Though isn't there a new spell that mimics Hardening?
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So its extremely expensive to have some awesome looking light armor. Unless your going with +5 enchantments, which would make the cost of 6575 good pieces negligible
Pretty much - as far as I can tell the primitive materials exist exclusively for flavour. Though I suppose Obsidian Stone Plate could act as a poor man's Mithral Full Plate (which costs 10,500gp but is significantly better).
Primitive Materials are mainly to allow groups to reenact Greek Legends and such.
That said Obsidian Blades would be nice just for the awesomeness on a Witch...
Items made from these materials can be magically strengthened at an additional cost of 100 gp per pound. See the individual material descriptions for the effect this has on the material’s properties.
It doesn't state anymore than this.