Spirit Totem chain - Does Greater lose the bonus from CHA?


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Silver Crusade

Just checking myself here. Have a positive-CHA barbarian using the spirit totems and is going to be going for the greater power.

Lesser Spirit Totem's wisp does 1d4 + CHA damage. Greater Spirit Totem makes no mention of any bonus from Charisma for its wisp, dealing a flat 1d6 damage instead. Then again, there's no mention of the wisp's "to hit" modifier either, which has me thinking we're supposed to refer to the Lesser version for that. But that leaves the question of just how much carries over from the Lesser version.

Was the loss of the Charisma benefit intended or was this an oversight in the Greater version? Or am I just misreading it?

Thanks!


You are misreading. The Greater version adds a new effect (1d8 auto damage to adjacent enemies) and improves the Lesser version (increasing the damage die from 1d4 to 1d6 and range from adjacent to 15').

So, your attack roll is identical to the Lesser, and the damage is 1d6 + Cha.

Silver Crusade

Ah thanks! That's what I thought was intended at first. Reading over them repeatedly had me questioning myself. :)

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