Ranged sunder possible?


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Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Is it possible to make a ranged sunder attempt, such as to shoot an attended flying carpet?

I think not (otherwise why have it as a class ability of the fighter/archer archetype), but some of my fellow players aren't so sure.


I don't think you can sunder with an bow and arrow but if you take the fighter archetype Archer you can.

The fighter archetype Archer's Trick Shot (Ex)

At 3rd level, an archer can choose one of the following combat maneuvers or actions: disarm, feint, or sunder. He can perform this action with a bow against any target within 30 feet, with a –4 penalty to his CMB. Every four levels beyond 3rd, he may choose an additional trick shot to learn. These maneuvers use up arrows as normal.

At 11th level, he may also choose from the following combat maneuvers: bull rush, grapple, trip. A target grappled by an arrow can break free by destroying the archer’s arrow (hardness 5, hit points 1, break DC 13) or with an Escape Artist or CMB check (against the archer’s CMD –4).

This ability replaces Armor Training 1, 2, 3, and 4.

This allows you to sunder with a arrow.


From the prd:

"Sunder

You can attempt to sunder an item held or worn by your opponent as part of an attack action in place of a melee attack. If you do not have the Improved Sunder feat, or a similar ability, attempting to sunder an item provokes an attack of opportunity from the target of your maneuver."

Emphasis mine. So the answer is no. The rules for sunder specifically state it must be replacing a melee attack.


D&D 3.5 had a feat for Ranged Sunder which was in the Complete Warrior, I believe. It could be adapted easily enough to Pathfinder if one were so inclined.

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