Inquisitor of Besmara


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can an inquisitor of besmara give up her domain for a nautical familiar the way a cleric of besmara can ?


Seraphimpunk wrote:
can an inquisitor of besmara give up her domain for a nautical familiar the way a cleric of besmara can ?

What ruleset is this from? Can you quote or link?

Edit: Though I can't examine the text, I'm inclined to say no, from a likely RAW standpoint. It might be an acceptable trade for your DM, though, if you ask him. If you can provide all the relevant texts, though, I can give you a real answer.

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skull & shackles #55 : the wormwood mutiny p 72 has Besmaran Familiars

Quote:
A cleric of besmara may give up one domain in exchange for a bird, blue-ringed octopus (ultimate magic 117), king crab (ultimate magic 119), monkey, or any of the familiars presented in the core rulebook. the cleric uses her cleric level as her effective wizard level for this purpose. a ranger who worships besmara may select any of the creatures listed above as a familiar instead of choosing an animal companion. the ranger's effective wizard level for this ability is equal to his ranger level -3.

i'm just not as familiar with Inquisitors. i know they get a domain like clerics, but just for the powers, not for the spells.


Unfortunately, that text would indicate that it would not apply to inquisitors. Considering how weak this ability is, however, your DM would probably allow you to swap it out, especially if you're doing it for flavor purposes. Ask nicely. :)

And bring pie. ;)


Brogue The Rogue wrote:

Unfortunately, that text would indicate that it would not apply to inquisitors. Considering how weak this ability is, however, your DM would probably allow you to swap it out, especially if you're doing it for flavor purposes. Ask nicely. :)

And bring pie. ;)

Actually, looking at Inquisitors themselves, this is totally legit:

From the PFSRD, on Inquisitors with Domains wrote:
Each domain grants a number of domain powers, depending on the level of the inquisitor. An inquisitor does not gain the bonus spells listed for each domain, nor does she gain bonus spell slots. The inquisitor uses her level as her effective cleric level when determining the power and effect of her domain powers. If the inquisitor has cleric levels, one of her two domain selections must be the same domain selected as an inquisitor. Levels of cleric and inquisitor stack for the purpose of determining domain powers and abilities, but not for bonus spells.

Bolded the most relevant part.

Grand Lodge

You just nab one of the Animal or Terrain Domains that grant a familiar.

Ultimate Magic wrote:
Other nature-themed classes with access to domains may select an animal or terrain domain in place of a regular domain.


Ganny wrote:
Brogue The Rogue wrote:

Unfortunately, that text would indicate that it would not apply to inquisitors. Considering how weak this ability is, however, your DM would probably allow you to swap it out, especially if you're doing it for flavor purposes. Ask nicely. :)

And bring pie. ;)

Actually, looking at Inquisitors themselves, this is totally legit:

From the PFSRD, on Inquisitors with Domains wrote:
Each domain grants a number of domain powers, depending on the level of the inquisitor. An inquisitor does not gain the bonus spells listed for each domain, nor does she gain bonus spell slots. The inquisitor uses her level as her effective cleric level when determining the power and effect of her domain powers. If the inquisitor has cleric levels, one of her two domain selections must be the same domain selected as an inquisitor. Levels of cleric and inquisitor stack for the purpose of determining domain powers and abilities, but not for bonus spells.
Bolded the most relevant part.

I disagree. The inquisitor "uses her level as her effective cleric level when determining the power and effect of her domain powers."

She does not, however, get to "use her inquisitor level as her cleric level when considering applicability for substitution of other abilities." In this case, "A cleric of besmara may give up one domain in exchange for a bird..." does not say "A cleric or inquisitor of Besmara..." nor does it say, "A cleric or equivalent of Besmara..." nor does it say "A cleric of Besmara, or someone that worships Besmara and has the domains to trade for this ability may..."

A literal reading of the rules does NOT allow this, as I said, for the inquisitor.

It would be permissible with the text that blackbloodtroll quoted, however, as long as your DM considers your Inquisitor to be a "nature themed class."

Shadow Lodge

blackbloodtroll wrote:

You just nab one of the Animal or Terrain Domains that grant a familiar.

Ultimate Magic wrote:
Other nature-themed classes with access to domains may select an animal or terrain domain in place of a regular domain.

This. Do this.

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