Snapdragon Fireworks - Correct Save?


Rules Questions

Silver Crusade

Apologies if this has already come up, I searched paizo.com for strings like 'snapdragon fireworks errata', 'snapdragon fireworks reflex', etc. and only found discussions of how many shots per casting of the spell a character gets.

Simply put, I'm confused by the Saving Throw entry for Snapdragon Fireworks, relative to its body text. Here are the relevant sections (from http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/ultimateMagic/spells/snapdragonFireworks .html )

Saving Throw reads: Reflex Negates

Body reads, in part: Creatures in the target square take 1d4 points of fire damage and are dazzled for 1 round (Reflex half, a successful save negates the dazzled condition)

What do I take away from that? Normally for this sort of 'a Save or not has multiple different effects' outcome, I would expect the Saving Throw field to read 'See Text'.

Presuming a character doesn't have Evasion and has no specific immunity to Dazzled, what happens if...

They fail the save? Full damage and Dazzled for 1 round, right?

They make the save? Is it No Damage and No Dazzle, or Half Damage and No Dazzle?

Basically, how should saving throws for this spell really work?


Body usually trumps the header.

Silver Crusade

Makes sense. That's what I've usually heard, just wanted to be sure that's how it definitely should be played (for example, in Pathfinder Society play).


Half damage and no dazzle.

But Snapdragon Fireworks is a garbage spell only useful for additional metamagic effects (like Dazing spell or even Rime if you can change its damage type).

I was actually going to ask why it matters because, really who cares about 1d4 damage halved, but then I realized I had the answer in my own post--Rime Spell.

Silver Crusade

Aw, it's not so bad. Maybe not super-great, but I can find other uses for it even without feats. At any rate, thank you both for your replies!


I like it because it can hurt swarms withour having a big area of effect.
But at higher levels the damage should be neglectable.

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