Skeleton Template and Skills


Rules Questions


I'm working on creating an Ettin Skeleton, and run into a bit of a quandary.

When adding the skeleton template it states that "A skeleton loses all skill ranks possessed by the base creature and gains none of its own." (Bestiary p.250.)

Okay, that's pretty clear...monster loses all skill ranks. What about racial bonuses though? The ettin has a +4 racial bonus to Perception...is this retained, or discarded?

What if it had been a skeletal tiefling? +2 racial bonus to Bluff and Stealth.

Sometimes, I can see where common sense overrules the question...a tiger gains a +8 Stealth bonus in tall grass, but that's probably due to its striped fur pattern, which the skeleton would lack. Others aren't so black-and-white though.

Any thoughts on this?

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Taffer

Sczarni

It loses ALL skill ranks so racial bonuses should stay I guess, however you can create intelligent undead. Such undead keep their ranks from the class.

Check the Skeletal Champion.

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