Bonuses From A Crowbar?


General Discussion (Prerelease)

Dark Archive

Okay, this issue came up in my game today. What bonuses would you recieve on a Strength check for using a crowbar? I could not find anything in the rules on the subject, and for the purpose of moving the story along, I gave the character a +2 bonus because of the leverage provided. How do you think that situation should be handled in the future?

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Charter Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

I do believe +2 is the defacto bonus for anything not written into rule.


Ummm ... that's stipulated in the description of crowbar IIRC, the +2 on Strength checks to force open doors and containers.

Crowbars are pretty useful like that IRL. ^_^

Scarab Sages

Adventure Path Charter Subscriber; Pathfinder Maps, Starfinder Maps Subscriber

I have crowbar in my standard character equipment list, that +2 can be really useful.

Dark Archive

Darn and here I was hoping this was a conversation about a place where birds go to have a drink.


Kevin Mack wrote:
Darn and here I was hoping this was a conversation about a place where birds go to have a drink.

It is one of 'Those Places' crows don't like to talk about after the Crowsteady Act was passed 70 years ago. They have to hang out in 'smoking establishments', never bars. Mmyah, see, mmyah.


You get a +2 attack and damage bonus (and an extra haste attack per round) against zombies and facehuggers!


Turin the Mad wrote:

Ummm ... that's stipulated in the description of crowbar IIRC, the +2 on Strength checks to force open doors and containers.

Crowbars are pretty useful like that IRL. ^_^

Agreed.

Pathfinder Beta wrote:
Crowbar: A crowbar grants a +2 circumstance bonus on Strength checks made to force open a door or chest. If used in combat, treat a crowbar as a one-handed improvised weapon that deals bludgeoning damage equal to that of a club of its size.

However, that doesn't seem adequate, when I think about it.

According to Pathfinder, a strong locked wooden door needs a DC 25 STR check to open. A normal ordinary man could, therefore, never open this locked wooden door, even using a crowbar. Never. Only a real athlete or a body builder, someone with almost incredible STR (16 or higher), clearly a guy who works out or has a very physical job, has any chance at all to open a locked wooden door, even with a crowbar.

And just completely forget about a locked iron door. Even Mr. Universe can't open that, crowbar or no crowbar.

Seems a little hard to believe.


Pathfinder Maps Subscriber

Not really. A two-inch thick iron door is basically like the door of a cheap (i.e. not particularly high quality) safe. While it's possible for one person working alone to eventually bend things enough to cause the door to fail, it's not going to happen in the quick time-frame envisioned by a break check. You're going to have to get two crow bars big enough for two people to get on each, so that the four of you can work together, and take several (many) rounds at it.

take 20 + 2 (crowbars) + 3x (+2 aid another) = 28

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