Shadowdancer's shadow companion question

[Jeff Clem]

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

[cartmanbeck]

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

This is a little strange, but that's how the rules are written. If I were your DM, and I was running a non-PFS game, I would definitely allow your shadow to be affected by your spells 100% of the time after you cast ghostbane dirge, because it would at that point be a willing creature. But, that's now how the rules are written as of now.

[Jeff Clem]

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

This is a little strange, but that's how the rules are written. If I were your DM,...

Sorry 5 levels of cleric.

[Jeff Clem]

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

This is a little strange, but that's how the rules are

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This wouldn't be your typical red cross cleric lol.

[cartmanbeck]

Jeff Clem wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

This is a little strange, but that's how

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Haha definitely not. Have you considered going with Dark Tapestry Oracle or Shadow Sorcerer instead? Those might synergize a lot better with having a shadow companion (especially the Shadow Sorcerer, since you'll get to cast lots of shadow-themed spells)

[Jeff Clem]

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

This is a little

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I picked Cleric for healing the shadow with channeling. What book is the Shadow Sorcerer from?

[cartmanbeck]

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal for those effects.

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Sorry, Shadow Sorcerer makes it sound like an Archetype. It's the Shadow bloodline from the Advanced Players Guide.

[Jeff Clem]

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

cartmanbeck wrote:

Jeff Clem wrote:

If you cast Ghostbane Dirge spell on a shadowdancer's shadow companion-

Ghostbane Dirge spell:
The target coalesces into a semi-physical form for a short period of time. While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects.

Now what I'm asking is would non damaging spell(s) effect 100% because,

Corporeal spells and effects that do not cause damage only have a 50% chance of affecting an incorporeal creature.

Example: casting haste on your shadow companion.

My build: 3 levels of Cleric 3 levels Shadow dancer( to get shadow companion then either more levels of cleric or shadow dancer.

I hope this doesn't sound confusing. lol

A couple things before I answer your question completely:

You can't possibly qualify for Shadowdancer with just 3 levels of Cleric. The first reason for this is it requires 5 ranks in Stealth, which you have to have BEFORE taking your first level in Shadowdancer, so you can't take your first level of Shadowdancer until at least level 6. Secondly, you need 3 feats, so only a human could qualify and that's by using all three feats for Combat Reflexes, Dodge, and Mobility, which would be a terrible set of feats to use on a level 3 Cleric.

ANYHOW: To answer your question, if you cast ghostbane dirge on the shadow companion, it would still only be affected by non-damaging spells (such as haste) 50% of the time. This is because the language of the ghostbane dirge spell says "While subject to the spell, the incorporeal creature takes half damage (50%) from nonmagical attack forms, and full damage from magic weapons, spells, spell-like effects, and supernatural effects." Since it doesn't mention non-damaging spells and effects, the creature is still treated as incorporeal

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I found Shadow caster which you mentioned earlier in the wizard archetype.