Hit Point confusion with Pathfinder products


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I've noticed that hit point totals for a great many characters in the Rivals Guide & various Adventure Paths seem "off" ...

For example, here is the HP stat block for Captain Ozrin Casault from the Rivals Guide.

hp 211 (18d10+108) ... he possesses the toughness feat and a 16 CON.

Shouldn't that be 18d10 + 54 [CON bonuses] + 18 [toughness feat] = 18d10 + 72 ?? Where do the other 36 hit points come from? I've noticed this with characters ALL OVER the Rivals Guide and with NPCs like Luvick Siervage [from the Carrion Crown Adventure Path].

What am I missing? Any insight would be appreciated.


18 more could come from Favored Class bonuses. Don't know what else.


The other 18 are probably from ability score modifications. By which I mean an editor missed it, and is a typo. Possibly.


Thanks mplindustries! That's 18 down ... 18 more to go.

Thanks in advance guys.


@ Ciaran: nope. The ability mods were already included with my math. CON with example I provided was 16 ... which equals +3 hp per hit die. Sorry. Thanks for responding though ...

I assume the designers are including bonuses from magic items? They'd have to be ... right?


I mean the con score might have been lowered at some point in the drafting process, but they forgot to lower the hp for the final draft.


@Ciaran again - possibly, but I doubt the editors made the same mistake for a majority of characters in the Rivals Guide {ie. Derrak, Shavaran] and all over the adventure paths. Doubtful the same mistake was made a few dozen times across multiple products.


No, I just looked at his stats and realized, no, they didn't include the +4 Con item into his stats. That's where the extra HP are coming from. His Con is really 20.


I think you must be right because I double checked some other characters from the Rivals Guide [Derrak & Shavaran] & from Jade Regent Adventure Path & ... all their stats check out.

Evidently, it was a typo with Casault. Editors forgot to include his +4 item ... they didn't forget to do so with other stat blocks. Thanks guys!

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