Send in the Clones!


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Silver Crusade

Alrighty then, well, I am currently running a game where one of the players has discovered (I made sure to get his permisson first, of course) that he is a "clone" of the wizard they are currently in the process of robbing, who had been his former master before they went turncoat.

The player is currently playing a summoner.

The whole situation is this; 16 level wizard establishes a tower over a lost, Jistka Imperium outpost in Southern Cheliax. He and a friend end up exploring the ruins when they are both young adventurers, and the friend is killed in the process, destroyed so utterly by something that even his soul is shattered, though the wizard clears out the ruins and builds his tower above.

Years later he discovers a scroll that he recovered from the ruins and promptly forgot about for a number of years, one written in Thassilonian, and covered in annotations written in Jistka.

This scroll describes for him a ritual, one quite similar to the creation of a Haemonculus, equal parts water and blood, along with spell components are mixed with clay and shaped into a form the creator desires, creating a blank body their soul can inhabit.

Something went wrong with the ritual, a cast off fragment of the soul of the dead friend inhabited the body, rather than the wizard being able to do so himself. The wizard, being fascinated by this turn of events, figured the problem lay in the ritual itself and chose to observe this clone to see what similarities it bore to him. Other than that the soul is something else entirely.

Due to the blood and everything else sunk into the construct, it does bear both sympathy and similarities to the wizard (who fashioned it to look like himself at about age 20.)

And, then the idea occurred to me that his Eidolon, being what it is, with the connection that it shares to him is, in a fashion his "soul" personified in an outsider form.

I've determined certain things about this whole template I am planning on applying to the player. Current things I have decided;

His Eidolon's subtype is changed to native outsider. It is able to stay on the prime material plane as long as it wishes, and is only unsummoned when the player wishes it, vanishing into the Ethereal plane, "orbiting" the character, for lack of a better description, basically becoming like a ghost, incapable of interacting with the prime material plane, but left unable to be touched by it in return. When unsummoned it enters a sort of "suspended animation" where it stays until resummoned. It does not heal while in the Ethereal plane.

Accordingly, if either the summoner OR the eidolon are killed, the other drops dead. The summon dies? So does he. The summoner dies? The Eidolon drops dead as well. Resurrecting one ressurects the other.

He's sterile, and cannot sire children,

He's Sympathetic to his master, intense feelings are shared between them, and while within 100 feet of one another, buff effects cast on one affect the other as well. The caster may also give orders to him if within physical hearing distance, with a succuessful will save negating this.

He's immune to level drain and effects that involve trapping the soul and things like that (unless his eidolon is targeted, rather than him, in which event he's effected as normal.)

He's ageless, meaning he does not lose strength, dexterity and constitution as he ages, and his appearance cannot age or change.

And he has low light vision.

Yes, this whole thing WAS rather heavily inspired by Alias from Curse of the Azure Bonds. That and Safiya from Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer

I'm currently wondering however, what should I do with the template? We both want to stress his... constructness, his Promethean qualities, the fact that he appears human, but very much lacks certain things about humanity, things that before the character took for granted, but will now wonder about when he learns of all this.

So, what does the community think? How would you work a template for this? For now, lacking a better name, I'm calling this template a "Pygmalion"

Silver Crusade

What? No one?


May want to post this over here as more people read those forums I'd imagine.


A neat idea, but I'm not sure you need to modify anything in-game. Flavor doesn't need to be re-skinned, in some cases.

As it is an explosive story element, I wouldn't change anything regarding the Summoner or the Eidolon, other than the "Ultimate Fate" contingency. Add that on, let the Summoner meet his destiny.

Let the story element drop and go from there. I think your post might be too succinct to attract attention, so I'll say that the ageless bit is too much, the PC should be nothing more than a Summoner with an Eidolon and a wicked back-story.

Put your idea into the mechanics of the game, rather than re-invent the wheel - or Eidolon. Not sure if it's relevant, but maybe the PC is a clone as per that spell? With conditions,

Summoner vs Wizard, what a battle!

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