| The Black Fox |
Globes of invulnerability excludes spell effects of a certain level or lower.
First, for the purposes of a faintly shimmering sphere, I believe that it is something easily seen. As long as there is no concealment, anyone can see it - no reason to ask for Spot checks or whatever regardless of visibility. Of course, if it is in darkness and people normally can't see in darkness, they see nothing. Shimmering does not mean illumination.
Next, while it exclude spell effects, it does not block them. A person can shoot a Lightning Bolt right through a globe. Nothing happens inside the globe, but the bolt will still "leave" the globe and affect anyone behind it normally.
Let's say someone has cast Greater Invisibility (4th level spell) and then cast Lesser Globe (which blocks 3rd level or lower). If someone casts Detect Magic (1st), See Invisibility (2nd) or Arcane Sight (3rd), can they determine what is inside the globe? It sounds like you can't - the divination magic is excluded inside the sphere. Is that correct?
Spell description says that the globe can be brought down by a targeted dispel magic spell, but not by an area dispel magic. Now Dispel Magic is a 3rd level spell, so it has no effect inside the globe. Therefore, I take it that you can't target a dispel magic on any person inside the globe. Instead, the globe is considered an "object" that you can target the dispel magic on.
Is the globe to be considered an object then in terms of spell effects?
Can I cast a Heightened Invisibility (as 4th level) on the globe so that it is not visible?
If so, does the aforementioned Detect Magic/See Invisible/Arcane Sight detect something (the presence of the invisible globe)?
I'll probably need to adjudicate this in game, so I wanted to ask opinions now. Thanks.
| Starbuck_II |
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Next, while it exclude spell effects, it does not block them. A person can shoot a Lightning Bolt right through a globe. Nothing happens inside the globe, but the bolt will still "leave" the globe and affect anyone behind it normally.
Yes, "Any type of spell, however, can be cast through or out of the magical globe"
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Is the globe to be considered an object then in terms of spell effects?
No. It is a spell (abjuration).
| Zagyg |
Globes of invulnerability excludes spell effects of a certain level or lower.
First, for the purposes of a faintly shimmering sphere, I believe that it is something easily seen. As long as there is no concealment, anyone can see it - no reason to ask for Spot checks or whatever regardless of visibility. Of course, if it is in darkness and people normally can't see in darkness, they see nothing. Shimmering does not mean illumination.
Next, while it exclude spell effects, it does not block them. A person can shoot a Lightning Bolt right through a globe. Nothing happens inside the globe, but the bolt will still "leave" the globe and affect anyone behind it normally.
Let's say someone has cast Greater Invisibility (4th level spell) and then cast Lesser Globe (which blocks 3rd level or lower). If someone casts Detect Magic (1st), See Invisibility (2nd) or Arcane Sight (3rd), can they determine what is inside the globe?
No.
It sounds like you can't - the divination magic is excluded inside the sphere. Is that correct?
Yes.
Spell description says that the globe can be brought down by a targeted dispel magic spell, but not by an area dispel magic. Now Dispel Magic is a 3rd level spell, so it has no effect inside the globe. Therefore, I take it that you can't target a dispel magic on any person inside the globe. Instead, the globe is considered an "object" that you can target the dispel magic on.
Is the globe to be considered an object then in terms of spell effects?
The globe is not an object it's a spell that can be targeted with dispel magic.
Targeted Dispel: One object, creature, or spell is the target of the dispel magic spell.Can I cast a Heightened Invisibility (as 4th level) on the globe so that it is not visible?
Even if the globe was an object, the light emitted by an invisible source is still visible. So all you can get is a globe of shimmering "invisible" air.
Invisibility : Light, however, never becomes invisible, although a source of light can become so (thus, the effect is that of a light with no visible source).If so, does the aforementioned Detect Magic/See Invisible/Arcane Sight detect something (the presence of the invisible globe)?
I'll probably need to adjudicate this in game, so I wanted to ask opinions now. Thanks.
Detect Magic will respond to the magic of the globe, but not with that lies within.
Detect Invisibility won't detect anything inside the globe.Arcane Sight functions like Detect Magic.
Hope this helps.
| P.H. Dungeon |
So am I right in saying, that If someone drops a fireball in a globe of invulnerability the fireball still goes off, it just has no effect on the area inside the globe, but it will still do damage to the areas around the globe since its radius spread goes outside the globe.
Question #1: If someone is in a globe and someone casts a deeper slumber on the person in the globe do they still roll a save? The spell wouldn't effect them while they stay in the globe, but I am I right in thinking that when they leave would they fall asleep (assuming they failed the save)?
Question #2: If someone enters the globe with a spell like haste on them does that spell stop working while they are in the globe?