Colossus speed (movement) (and other larger creatures)


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Grand Lodge

Has there been an official ruling on the speed/movement of creatures that are large and bigger?

Everything I see points to the literal reading, that the speed of the creature is how many feet it gets to move on the grid.

For example, a human has a speed of 30 ft, and therefore can move 5 total squares from his original position.

But what if the creature is larger? Larger creatures occupy more than one square. When a human moves, by nature they only fill one square and thus their movement takes them out of the space they were in and advances them.

Looking at a larger creature, especially a colossus, it would make perfect sense that one step would take them way past the one step of a human, simply because they are larger. However, their speed is listed as 40ft.

That means a colossus can't even get out of the space they previously occupied before!

In 2nd ADND, the creature actually got to move via squares, and got to use each occupied space as their square, so a colossus in 2ed could move 6, but it was 6 actual spaces it occupied, not 6 squares.

I could understand, too, though, that allowing a colossus to move 40ft of it's "space" would equate to a grid movement ridiculously large.

I just never saw anything explaining such a large creature not even being able to move out of its previously occupied area...

Liberty's Edge

If you are medium sized with a move of 30 you move 6 squares. You are not counting your starting square in that equation.

A large creature follows the same rules. You don't count the squares you are currently in a part of that specific move action. That would be silly.

Here are some poor examples in text:

Large sized creature starting squares.
x x x x x x
x L L x x x
x L L x x x
x x x x x x

Large sized creature moving 5 foot forward.
x x x x x x
x x L L x x
x x L L x x
x x x x x x

10' forward (from start)
x x x x x x
x x x L L x
x x x L L x
x x x x x x


While I agree with you that very large creatures should move further do to their natural gate, I do not think that there needs to be rules for this. Developers should just adjust the movement rate for that particular monster. This is something that they do not do however.

It is kind of sad to see that a wyrmling dragon moves at the same ground rate as an ancient dragon. So as a ratio of body size a wyrmling can move 8 times its size where as an ancient dragon can only move 2 times its size.


Their gait may be longer, but when their velocity is taken into account, the resulting movement rate is the same.

A tiny creature with 30 ft speed moves its legs very quickly, but has a short stride.
A colossal creature with 30 ft speed has a huge stride, but moves its legs very slowly.

This makes sense to me.


Are wrote:

Their gait may be longer, but when their velocity is taken into account, the resulting movement rate is the same.

A tiny creature with 30 ft speed moves its legs very quickly, but has a short stride.
A colossal creature with 30 ft speed has a huge stride, but moves its legs very slowly.

This makes sense to me.

Makes sense to me, too. What makes less sense is that they can only make 5 foot steps, but that's just to keep things mechanically the same I'm fairly sure.

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