How many hit points does an Eidalon get at 1st level? How about a Druid's AC?

[ElyasRavenwood]

How many hit points does an Eidalon get at first levle? Is it 10 + con modifier? 5+con modifier? 6+con modifier? I will be playing in PFS with this character

Oh PS how about a druids animal companion?

Thanks.

[NeoSeraphi]

Racial hit dice are always the average, rounded down.

An eidolon starts with 1d10 racial hit dice, so 5.5+Con, rounded down to 5+Con.

An animal companion starts with 2d8 racial hit dice, so 4.5+Conx2, or 9+2xCon.

[The Rot Grub]

NeoSeraphi wrote:

Racial hit dice are always the average, rounded down.

An eidolon starts with 1d10 racial hit dice, so 5.5+Con, rounded down to 5+Con.

An animal companion starts with 2d8 racial hit dice, so 4.5+Conx2, or 9+2xCon.

Where does it say that? For some reason I always thought the hit dice are rolled. One could house rule the average; but the default is that they are rolled.

[David knott 242]

In PFS play, all random rolls like this are averaged as indicated (with a special "half plus 1" rule for player character hit pints above first level). In private games, the rules for hit die rolls are whatever your DM says they are. If you are the DM, you decide.

Personally, I consider the idea of rolling hit points or ability scores to be a sacred cow that should have been slaughtered years ago -- but that is a matter best discussed in a forum other than this one.

[Finlanderboy]

they start with max HP and you round up for PFS with additional levels.

[Skylancer4]

Finlanderboy wrote:

they start with max HP and you round up for PFS with additional levels.

Incorrect, players get max HP at first, that doesn't extend to the AC/mounts/eids.

[Finlanderboy]

Where does it say this?

[Skylancer4]

The PFS states PCs get the max HP at first level, ACs/Eids aren't PCs, they are class abilities for that PC.

Download the PFS content if you want to read the words yourself. The exception is made for the PCs first level.

[Finlanderboy]

But where does it say what pets and such get thier HPs?

[Caderyn]

From the Pathfinder society FAQ

http://paizo.com/pathfinderSociety/faq#v5748eaic9os4

"How do I determine hit points for my animal companion?
Animal companions receive average hit points per hit die. For d8, the average is 4.5. Multiply 4.5 times the number of hit dice your animal companion has and round down. Recalculate hit points for your companion each time it gains additional hit dice. After its hit points are calculated, add in appropriate bonuses from its Constitution modifier, feats, and so on."

This would also apply to Eidolons

[Finlanderboy]

Thanks