Monk, Vow of Poverty and Vow of Chains


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Vow of poverty wrote:
Restriction: The monk taking a vow of poverty must never own more than six possessions—a simple set of clothing, a pair of sandals or shoes, a bowl, a sack, a blanket, and any one other item. Five of these items must be of plain and simple make, though one can be of some value (often an heirloom of great personal significance to the monk). The monk can never keep more money or wealth on his person than he needs to feed, bathe, and shelter himself for 1 week in modest accommodations. He cannot borrow or carry wealth or items worth more than 50 gp that belong to others. He is allowed to accept and use curative potions (or similar magical items where the item is consumed and is valueless thereafter) from other creatures.
Vow of chains wrote:
Restriction: Either out of penitence or to bring attention to the suffering of the enslaved, the monk wears shackles on his wrists and legs. This gives the monk a –1 penalty on attack rolls and to AC, and reduces his movement by 10 feet. If temporarily unable to wear his chains, he may carry rocks or some other heavy burden (including medium or heavy armor) to simulate this suffering.

Since shackles aren't on the list of items a Vow of poverty monk can take he must select them as the "other item" or can he include them in his "simple set of clothing"?


If your GM agrees, one workaround might be a willing party member who buys the chains and lets you wear (read: "carry") them out of respect for your vow.


Hm, another workaround could be that he is an escaped slave, and vowed never to remove his chains as part of bringing attention to the plight of slaves. He doesn't own the chains or claim ownership, he just wasn't willing to let the rightful owners use them to enslave someone else.

Just an idea!

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I'd allow both without any adjustment. I don't feel the shackles go against the spirit of the VoP. I don't see anything game breaking about allowing them as a 7th item.

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