Raxilite Mechanic - Experimental Prototype


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The Writings for everything don't really say anything definitive, but rather their are vague parts to each, that ultimately just have the player or DM assume that it would be possible. is that enough to consider it official?

The vague text has to do with the Raxilite's Arm Strength, the sizing of weapons, and the required weeapon size for the Prototype.

For a Raxilite it says this, "LFAN (Ex) An LFAN, or Lifting Floret Activation Network, is a biotech augmentation that looks like a cluster of artificial, prehensile “vines” attached to a raxilite’s brain system (the raxilite can add one other brain augmentation to the LFAN). The LFAN is as dexterous and strong as a human hand, and the vines can extend and retract, allowing a raxilite to use one-handed items as if they were a Medium creature with a reach of 5 feet"

----Assuming he could still wield a Larger item(A weapon in this case), if it was crafted or purchased specialty as a Tiny Item(Tiny Weapon) to match the size of the Raxilite.

For Weapon Sizing it says, "Weapons are built to be easily held and used by both Small and Medium creatures. Weapons can be built for use by smaller creatures but generally cost twice as much (since they require
special miniaturization technology). Weapons can also be built for use by larger creatures with no increase in price. A Small or Medium creature trying to use a weapon built for a creature that is Tiny or Large suffers a –4 penalty to attack rolls. Weapons designed for creatures Diminutive or smaller, or Huge or larger, generally cannot be effectively used by Small or Medium creatures."

-----From that Statement, though it doesnt say it precisely. It's trying to say that a creature can use a weapon of 1 size smaller or larger than itself but receives a -4 penalty, and that it cannot use a weapon with a creature size difference of 2 or greater. The Only Exception being that it Places Small & Medium creatures in the same Weapon Catagory, as well as Diminutive and Fine Weapons in the same weapon catagory. below is an example.

1. Smallest Weapon Category - Fine Creatures & Diminutive Creatures
2. Tiny Weapon Category - Tiny Creatures
3. Medium Weapon Category - Small Creatures & Medium Creatures
4. Large Weapon Category - Large Creatures
5. Huge Weapon Category - Huge Creatures

Using that as a base rule for all sizes. A Tiny Creature like the Raxilite should be able to use a Medium Creature weapon but receieve a -4 Penalty.

-----SO!, So far we know the Raxilite has 2 Natural arms(from the photo of its Racial Depiction), and a Cybernetic Implant that acts as extra smaller arms that allow it to wield a 1-handed Medium Creature weapon without suffering the -4 penalty. Does this mean that it could still technically use a 2-Handed Medium Creature weapon at the cost of the -4 penatly?

Now we move onto the Experimental Prototype Text, There are 2 portions.
1. Experimental Weapon Prototype - You have designed and built, and are constantly upgrading, a sophisticated weapon. You begin play with one weapon with an item level of 1 for free, or you can buy any weapon normally and designated it as your weapon prototype. You design and build this weapon and, while it may be similar in aesthetics and function to an existing type of weapon, it is fundamentally unique from any mass-produced product. Due to its experimental design and custom safety features, you are the only one who can make attacks with this weapon.

2. Weapon Prototype Proficiency - You gain proficiency in advanced melee weapons, heavy weapons, or longarms. Once this choice is made, it can’t be changed. Your weapon prototype must be a weapon of this type.

------From the First section I believe we can ASSUME that the prototype weapon would be the same creature size as the character with this class skill.
------From the second part we know the weapon type has to be 1 of the three types listed. Each is a 2-handed weapon type. Again, only assuming the First part allows the weapon to be the correct size, the player should be able to use the weapon without any problems(as long as it doesn't require more than 2 hands/arms to wield it).

-Now Here is where it gets oddly uncomfortable. The Raxilites LFAN ability doesnt state how many Tenticle/vines it has(the image has 6). However It says that the LFAN on its own is the equivelant of 1 Medium Creature Hand/Arm.

In The Next Racial Ability for the Raxilite, LFAN Symbiosis, it does that 4 Raxilites sharing the same space can act as an Arm each, up to Four Arms, and can Wield items as a group.

Does that mean that all 4 Raxilites, which 2 Tiny Hands/arms each, for a total of 8, cannot add a 5th Medium Creature arm/hand?

----So if a Raxilite Mechanic is wielding a 2-handed Tiny Weapon in his hands for the Prototype, What are his LFAN capable of doing? Does the LFAN on its own still act as a Medium Creatures 1 hand? OR do they become useless? How many Tiny Creature hands are the Equivelant of One Medium Creatures Hand? Do each of the LFANs Tenticles Count as Tiny Hands?, Or are the LFANS hands even smaller? Are Weapons the only objects that come in different sizes?, if the LFAN are counted as Tiny hands, can they hold/sheath/put away items that are of Tiny Size?

When it comes to this build there seems to be an awefully lot of ASSUMPTIONS needed to get it right. So really im stuck between 2 things. Mostly I Will Probably go with what works and just assume that the Raxilite's LFAN comes with 6 Tiny Arms, and that 8 Tiny Arms are the Natural Equivalent of 1 Medium Creature Arm.

But now when you read that, your probably mind blown by "8 Arms". Since it seems weapons do the same damage regardless of size. I would assume that a Raxilite has the potential to Wield Two Different weapons that require 4 Arms each to weild. <-- I cant think of any weapons like that off the top of my head, but i know ive seen them when reading through the books.

Anyway, anyone have any Thoughts? Ill still Make the character of course, But ultimatly ill just have to use the LFAN to Sheath/Equip/Put away items, and hope my GM is Okay with that. If your a DM, that sounds good right?, instead of overcomplicating it......like I did. lol =P


I wonder why they don't just completely OMIT the Weapon sizes text, it seems like it just greatly over-complicates things. Especially if were just going to assume everything works out in your advantage.


Ok so as a base view and read I would say the Rax has 2 tiny hands and single Medium hand. I know the art work shows him having his little vines.
From a strict sense, I would generally assume that each Race has 2 hands as a base of their size. The LFAN is a Biotech upgrade which gives a single Medium hand. I know the art work for Rax are quite numerous, I see them as 'fingers' rather then hands.
Side note, the Prototype weapon becomes 1 handed at level 5, which I like.
Concering the grouping, it specifically states the LFANs can be used in the group, not their individual hands.
Regarding the arm uses. If your Rax is using a 2 handed tiny item, the LFAN 'hand' can still be used for actions requiring 1 hand, such as carrying a knife for eaxample.

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