Goonswarm in the US Embassy


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News article.

Hopefully, we can avoid discussing the politics of the situation.

But, given how much Ryan has talked about the Goons, their impact on Eve, and their likely impact on Pathfinder Online, I found it interesting to discover that one of American diplomats killed in Libya was apparently a "leader" in Goonswarm.

Grand Lodge

Nihimon wrote:

News article.

This is the wired version of the story.


Really, really tragic news. This guy obviously had a lot of good work still to give in this life. I hope he can be remembered.

Sovereign Court

Jim Rudnick wrote:
Nihimon wrote:

News article.

This is the wired version of the story.

The comments on that article sadden me.


It is sheer lunacy that they were guarded by Host Country Nationals... and that this is a common practice / policy is even more disturbing.

Unfortunately all we can do now is pray for his family. I can't even begin to imagine what Alex Gianturco is feeling right now.


Not really the place for this discussion. Everyone is sad that he died.


Sorry, I knew this was dicey. I really wanted to focus on the fact that a prominent Goonswarm member was also part of the US Diplomatic Corps, and that he was particularly effective as a diplomat in-game as well. I was also kind of surprised by this because I'd gotten the impression from Ryan (probably from my own assumptions more than anything he said) that the Goons were synonymous with the Russians.


Tragic day. Even worse is that people are arguing over it, be it politics or religion.

Can't we just get along?


Nihimon wrote:
Sorry, I knew this was dicey. I really wanted to focus on the fact that a prominent Goonswarm member was also part of the US Diplomatic Corps, and that he was particularly effective as a diplomat in-game as well. I was also kind of surprised by this because I'd gotten the impression from Ryan (probably from my own assumptions more than anything he said) that the Goons were synonymous with the Russians.

From this perspective, I was very impressed with the stories of diplomacy this guy obviously was able to bring to EvE. I hope Pathfinder will see this sort of high level diplomatic interaction also between people.

Obviously a guy who put his skill sets to great use online and in RL: Makes the loss all the more.


Marthian wrote:
Can't we just get along?

I Just Wanna Get Along

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