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You know what show I find offensive? The King of Queens!!!
This terrible slop perpetuates the offensive stereotype that all Teamsters are obese slobs and infantile man-children with hawt wives.
Let me tell you, hawt wives are hard to find in the International Brotherhood.
You know what show I find offensive? The King of Queens!!!
This terrible slop perpetuates the offensive stereotype that all Teamsters are obese slobs and infantile man-children with hawt wives.
Let me tell you, hawt wives are hard to find in the International Brotherhood.
I'm offended by the Obese guy with a thin hot wife trope. I know it happens in real life, but typically that guy is wealthy.
UPS drivers are wealthy, you classist fool.
Union! Union! Union!
UPS drivers are wealthy, you classist fool.
Union! Union! Union!
My brother-in-law is a UPS driver. Admitedly he makes decent money, but they won't be buying a yacht anytime soon.
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When I was living in Boston, my roommate would come home from a hard day delivering downtown and would ask why all the white girls were snooty to him and all the black and Hispanic girls were so nice.
"Well," I said, "the white girls think they're better than you because they've been to college and the other girls know how much money you make."
Union! Union! Union!
Can't stand it. Which drives my mom nuts, she loves it and can't understand why I don't think it's funny.
Especially when she points at the skinny neurotic guy whose name I didn't bother to learn and says "But it's so YOU!". UUUUUUUUUUUUUGH.
Friends, Seinfield, Star Trek original series, Curb yoru enthusiam, Nurse Jackie, Parks and recreation, How I met your mother, the office, Always sunny in Philadelphia, community, 30 rock, etc, etc, etc.
Star Trek and Community are the only thing on this list I thought at all tolerable. They're also really nothing like the rest, other than Community also being a sitcom... and I'm not certain why Star Trek is on the list at all, to be honest.
When I was living in Boston, my roommate would come home from a hard day delivering downtown and would ask why all the white girls were snooty to him and all the black and Hispanic girls were so nice.
"Well," I said, "the white girls think they're better than you because they've been to college and the other girls know how much money you make."
Union! Union! Union!
Well, Brother-in-law has a college degree and he still drives a truck. I have to assume that it's for the money. lol.
Your comment made me laugh though.
Can't stand it. Which drives my mom nuts, she loves it and can't understand why I don't think it's funny.
Especially when she points at the skinny neurotic guy whose name I didn't bother to learn and says "But it's so YOU!". UUUUUUUUUUUUUGH.
My problem - when you said skinny neurotic guy my first thought was "which one." I also inserted annoying into the description, because that also fits all the characters.
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Friends, Seinfield, Star Trek original series, Curb yoru enthusiam, Nurse Jackie, Parks and recreation, How I met your mother, the office, Always sunny in Philadelphia, community, 30 rock, etc, etc, etc.Star Trek and Community are the only thing on this list I thought at all tolerable. They're also really nothing like the rest, other than Community also being a sitcom... and I'm not certain why Star Trek is on the list at all, to be honest.
I was just naming popular shows. I'm not a huge fan of Star trek, though I appreciate it's cultural/historical value. Past that I don't actually watch any of those shows either. Most of america, however, does.
I was just naming popular shows. I'm not a huge fan of Star trek, though I appreciate it's cultural/historical value. Past that I don't actually watch any of those shows either. Most of america, however, does.Quote:
Friends, Seinfield, Star Trek original series, Curb yoru enthusiam, Nurse Jackie, Parks and recreation, How I met your mother, the office, Always sunny in Philadelphia, community, 30 rock, etc, etc, etc.Star Trek and Community are the only thing on this list I thought at all tolerable. They're also really nothing like the rest, other than Community also being a sitcom... and I'm not certain why Star Trek is on the list at all, to be honest.
I guess.
I only really watch three shows - Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community has been on my "watch this" list for some time now. I don't really care for the vast majority of American TV. So what "most of America" enjoys really doesn't jive with me, heh.
My problem - when you said skinny neurotic guy my first thought was "which one." I also inserted annoying into the description, because that also fits all the characters.Can't stand it. Which drives my mom nuts, she loves it and can't understand why I don't think it's funny.
Especially when she points at the skinny neurotic guy whose name I didn't bother to learn and says "But it's so YOU!". UUUUUUUUUUUUUGH.
The one who's mostly bald-ish, doesn't wear glasses, and is really twitchy.
I was just naming popular shows. I'm not a huge fan of Star trek, though I appreciate it's cultural/historical value. Past that I don't actually watch any of those shows either. Most of america, however, does.Quote:
Friends, Seinfield, Star Trek original series, Curb yoru enthusiam, Nurse Jackie, Parks and recreation, How I met your mother, the office, Always sunny in Philadelphia, community, 30 rock, etc, etc, etc.Star Trek and Community are the only thing on this list I thought at all tolerable. They're also really nothing like the rest, other than Community also being a sitcom... and I'm not certain why Star Trek is on the list at all, to be honest.
I guess.
I only really watch three shows - Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community has been on my "watch this" list for some time now. I don't really care for the vast majority of American TV. So what "most of America" enjoys really doesn't jive with me, heh.
I tend to agree. I don't normally like what most of America likes. Then again I don't watch much TV. When I do spend time in front of the TV it's usually discovery channel, science channel, or history channel.
I tend to agree. I don't normally like what most of America likes. Then again I don't watch much TV. When I do spend time in front of the TV it's usually discovery channel, science channel, or history channel.I was just naming popular shows. I'm not a huge fan of Star trek, though I appreciate it's cultural/historical value. Past that I don't actually watch any of those shows either. Most of america, however, does.Quote:
Friends, Seinfield, Star Trek original series, Curb yoru enthusiam, Nurse Jackie, Parks and recreation, How I met your mother, the office, Always sunny in Philadelphia, community, 30 rock, etc, etc, etc.Star Trek and Community are the only thing on this list I thought at all tolerable. They're also really nothing like the rest, other than Community also being a sitcom... and I'm not certain why Star Trek is on the list at all, to be honest.
I guess.
I only really watch three shows - Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community has been on my "watch this" list for some time now. I don't really care for the vast majority of American TV. So what "most of America" enjoys really doesn't jive with me, heh.
Yep, exactly. I don't even have a TV of my own nowadays. Those three shows I watch online.
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But Jack is counteracted by Will. By having both examples of gay people as major characters, they are not providing just 1 view. None of the characters on BBT are even remotely normal geeks, so the only view of them the show provides is extremely negative.Will is not his analog. Jack is.Cain,
The point is that I think you're too concerned with it. It's a sit com and not that big of a deal.
Will and Grace is not a good representation of gay people, but it was ground breaking in it's day. I think most moderately well adjusted people know that BBT and other sit coms aren't real life.
Will was a successful, intelligent, and fairly normal person who happened to be gay. He wasn't significantly more characturized than most other sitcom characters. He was one of the first people like that on a mainstream show, and certainly the first lead I can think of.
Contrast him with Sheldon, who is now the icon of Aspergers - today I actually listened people talking about how Aspergers people are like him at my work caffeteria. His defining character trait is asshat, and it comes accross in every interaction he makes. People now associate his level of dickishness with the disease. I know at least 3 people with the disease, and it is insulting to me that people relate him with them.
Define normal. Also, I think most people in this thread are assuming that the inflated caricatures on the show are of the geek crowd in general. They aren't. They are of scientists. It just so happens that many scientists fall into geek circles.
Define normal. Also, I think most people in this thread are assuming that the inflated caricatures on the show are of the geek crowd in general. They aren't. They are of scientists. It just so happens that many scientists fall into geek circles.But Jack is counteracted by Will. By having both examples of gay people as major characters, they are not providing just 1 view. None of the characters on BBT are even remotely normal geeks, so the only view of them the show provides is extremely negative.Will is not his analog. Jack is.Cain,
The point is that I think you're too concerned with it. It's a sit com and not that big of a deal.
Will and Grace is not a good representation of gay people, but it was ground breaking in it's day. I think most moderately well adjusted people know that BBT and other sit coms aren't real life.
Will was a successful, intelligent, and fairly normal person who happened to be gay. He wasn't significantly more characturized than most other sitcom characters. He was one of the first people like that on a mainstream show, and certainly the first lead I can think of.
Contrast him with Sheldon, who is now the icon of Aspergers - today I actually listened people talking about how Aspergers people are like him at my work caffeteria. His defining character trait is asshat, and it comes accross in every interaction he makes. People now associate his level of dickishness with the disease. I know at least 3 people with the disease, and it is insulting to me that people relate him with them.
Also, Will isn't just a "regular guy." He's on a different spectrum of gayness to Jack. I almost said opposites, but that's not entirely accurate. Will is a neurotic fairly dull control freak with mommy issues. Jack is a gay jack russle terrier that learned to talk.
Neither are "normal" by any definition. So they're both caricatures of different aspects of gay culture.
I only really watch three shows - Doctor Who, Mythbusters, and Community has been on my "watch this" list for some time now. I don't really care for the vast majority of American TV. So what "most of America" enjoys really doesn't jive with me, heh.
This is pretty much my list as well, (plus Adventure Time!).
Although I am frequently annoyed at Doctor Who's neo-luddite messages. Seriously BBC, this is the 21st century. We should be over that.
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I absolutely adore the show.
I have to ask those who hate it: do you hate it because you've teasingly been identified by your friends as the real-life version of one of the characters?
Do you hate the show because you've identified yourself with one of the characters and find the relationship a bit uncomfortable?
No pop psychology here, but a couple posts seem to very clearly point in this direction.
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I absolutely adore the show.
I have to ask those who hate it: do you hate it because you've teasingly been identified by your friends as the real-life version of one of the characters?
Do you hate the show because you've identified yourself with one of the characters and find the relationship a bit uncomfortable?
No pop psychology here, but a couple posts seem to very clearly point in this direction.
Nope never been conflated with any of the unflattering stereotypes from the show. I just think its has out lived it's funniness.
Once you see the formula of the show and can predict the jokes and the resolution of the episode after 5 mins or less of watching its time for it wind up.
I just find it to be a series of lazy and cheap jokes at the expense of a vulnerable community.
It wastes an opportunity to actually say things and educate people about science or make science accessible to everybody (Comedy being one of the best ways to educate). This probably the most disappointing aspect of the show.
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I havent't seen too much of the show. I watched one and a half episodes which I didn't think were funny or interesting, so I didn't watch more. I later watched one episode in English instead of the German dubbed version, but for me that didn't improve anything.
I have not met any person (having geologists, engineers, physicists, mathematicians, and biologists in my family and more of them in my closer and farther circle of associates) that came close to a character I saw in the show (nor to the geek/nerd trope often seen in american movies and shows). Perhaps this kind or personality/(a)social identification is more common in the US than in Germany and western europe, but if it is I have no experience with it.
I think a good comedy has to take its characters seriously, what I have seen of BBT didn't seem to. In fact, in the episodes I have seen it seemed to more or less just make fun of the characters, a kind of humor I don't appreciate (regardless of the character made fun of) because it borders on maliciousness.
edit: As I said, I haven't seen enough of the show to say if this impression is indeed true and I don't want to ascribe anybody who enjoys it a malicious streak.
I absolutely adore the show.
I have to ask those who hate it: do you hate it because you've teasingly been identified by your friends as the real-life version of one of the characters?
Do you hate the show because you've identified yourself with one of the characters and find the relationship a bit uncomfortable?
No pop psychology here, but a couple posts seem to very clearly point in this direction.
I started to hate it when I was predicting dialogue. It had reached Family Guy level - the realization that they have one joke and nothing creative going for them. As soon as I found the premise wearing thin, it was no longer something I wanted to sit through.
Getting called Sheldon was the death knell for my tolerance. The show being boring and unfunny was passable. Being forced to sit through a boring and unfunny show is what pushed it into hate.
The show did not interest me and any interest I might have had was waned quickly by my mom's constant professions of adoration and near-demands that I watch it. When I finally acquiesced and sat through an episode, I laughed exactly once. She laughed the entire time, then claimed I had no sense of humor.
I just don't find it funny. I haven't watched it enough to be offended about it. My irritation is that it is as popular as it is and Community, a show that I've only seen small bits of but already know I'll greatly enjoy when I get around to watching it, is not.
The show did not interest me and any interest I might have had was waned quickly by my mom's constant professions of adoration and near-demands that I watch it. When I finally acquiesced and sat through an episode, I laughed exactly once. She laughed the entire time, then claimed I had no sense of humor.
I just don't find it funny. I haven't watched it enough to be offended about it. My irritation is that it is as popular as it is and Community, a show that I've only seen small bits of but already know I'll greatly enjoy when I get around to watching it, is not.
Community assumes the audience has a brain. BBT takes characters who are supposed to be intelligent and makes them morons.
I am a little suprised that so many people have such strong feelings about it.
We nerds and geeks take ourselves too seriously?
Perhaps.
Love it.
The don't really play Talisman on that show however. They keep putting a toad in the inner region. LOL
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I am a little suprised that so many people have such strong feelings about it.
To be honest so am I. I think the show was okay in the beginning but I don't really watch it that much. However, people keep saying things like "you can tell it sucks because they need a laugh track", when the show is filmed live and without a laugh track there would just be weird awkward pauses. So there is a sort of mythology to it that isn't even true.
What is odd is that I really only see this backlash among "geeks" from the gaming/comic/sci-fi/fantasy crowd and not "scientists". Since this thread started I have been asking around my lab (mostly physics grad students with a few engineers) and I have found that all but 2 like it (out of twenty or so). One of the two that dislike it hates all television.
A lot of shows are terrible but BBT has a sort of anti-cult status that I can't really understand. It would be interesting to see a poll that asked:
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
2. Do you enjoy comics?
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
6. Are you a scientist?
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I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.
Reformatted for ease of response. Just take off my quote= name and the /quote at the end.
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
2. Do you enjoy comics?
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
6. Are you a scientist?
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
7
2. Do you enjoy comics?
3
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
8
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
10
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
10
6. Are you a scientist?
5
Not as simple of a question as that. I work in masters level industrial organizational psychology. I use a lot of behavioral data, but I don't directly conduct research. I do use scientific perspective, statistics, etc in much of my life though.
Professionally i'm probaby a 2
Personally I'm probably a 7
I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.
I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.
the worst thing anyone ever did to me in my life, was tell me I was intelligent.
How so?
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
2. Dislike but not vitriolic enough to consider hate.
2. Do you enjoy comics?
8. I never got into comic BOOKS, but I read several webcomics frequently.
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
10. 75% of my free time is spent doing something related to gaming - preparing or playing in sessions, playing video games, or hanging out on sites like this.
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
9. Prefer fantasy, but sci-fi is good too.
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
10. Much of the rest of my free time is spent writing or reading it.
6. Are you a scientist?
1. I really have no scientific background whatsoever, and did poorly in sciences in school.
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Reformatted for ease of response. Just take off my quote= name and the /quote at the end.
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
With only love (10) and hate (1) as cornerstones, I would probably say 3-4. I dislike it for reasons stated above, but I don't deem it important enough to hate it.
2. Do you enjoy comics?
6-7, Yes, but generally less then books or movies (of course I do enjoy some comics more then some movies or books etc, but that is the way with 'general' answers.
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
8-9, No, I am just here for the view ;-). Of course I enjoy gaming. RPGs, Boardgames, Videogames (aka computer games, I don't enjoy videogames enough to get a console)
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
8 with exceptional 10s. Yes, movies/shows as well as novels/stories. I do not like Star Trek very much, but again, I don't hate it, either.
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
7, with exceptional 10s Yes, movies as well as novels (though I think there are less 'great' novels and movies around then for SF)
6. Are you a scientist?
No, I am not (social science does not count as a science), but I rate scientists among my immediate family (brother, 2 uncles) and close friends.
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I have not met any person (having geologists, engineers, physicists, mathematicians, and biologists in my family and more of them in my closer and farther circle of associates) that came close to a character I saw in the show (nor to the geek/nerd trope often seen in american movies and shows). Perhaps this kind or personality/(a)social identification is more common in the US than in Germany and western europe, but if it is I have no experience with it.
Well I think the US has an ingrained distrust of science. I can definitely say that in high school that the science nerds were picked on. I even hid my interest in science to avoid conflict. A friend of mine, who also became a scientist, attempted to suicide and very nearly died because of bullying. You have to remember it has only recently become cool to be geeky. Back in my day you still got beat up for it.
Also, I am a physicist and I have met people like Sheldon, perhaps to a lesser extreme. To me Leonard is a reasonable 1 dimensional sitcom approximation of many physicists.
Almost every physicist I know is fairly odd. Most of them know how to turn on social niceties to blend in but once you get close to them you find out how weird they are. For example, one of my colleagues is in his twenties but he dresses and speaks like he is from the 1940s. He lives in an apartment with a mattress on the floor, an oil lamp, and books stacked everywhere and that is it. He is quick to dismiss people and even though he understands normal social conventions he thinks they are all absurd and refuses to partake in them. You wouldn't know this about him unless you were his friend. I have another friend who is also a colleague who is a super cool person and bloody brilliant but when he talks to girls he turns into a complete mad man and scares them away. And another who is so out of touch with reality that myself and a group of concerned people have to check up on him from time to time because he forgets to pay his bills and gets evicted and instead of getting a new place he just sleeps outside on the streets.
I suppose my friends would tell you that I have an extreme distrust of authority, I am paranoid, I have an unhealthy preoccupation with minutiae, I have trouble seeing the good side of people, and I am hyper critical of everything. Of course they would all be wrong.
I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.
Maybe I wasn't clear. I get that they are supposed to be super smart. But they don't have any of the swagger and confidence. That's a plausibility problem for me. I thought incredibly intelligent, gainfully employed guys in the real world would be taking trips to Vegas, not getting stuffed into the lockers.
If nobody gets what I'm saying here, it's probably likely I have a skewed idea of the reality of how these things work. I only have a few points of reference for people who are that intelligent.
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I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.Maybe I wasn't clear. I get that they are supposed to be super smart. But they don't have any of the swagger and confidence. That's a plausibility problem for me. I thought incredibly intelligent, gainfully employed guys in the real world would be taking trips to Vegas, not getting stuffed into the lockers.
Trips to Vegas? When there is work to be done? Besides they would know the odds of winning were so low they wouldn't bother.
I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.Maybe I wasn't clear. I get that they are supposed to be super smart. But they don't have any of the swagger and confidence. That's a plausibility problem for me. I thought incredibly intelligent, gainfully employed guys in the real world would be taking trips to Vegas, not getting stuffed into the lockers.
Fair enough. I think they're going with the "Jr high never ends" trope. Which I'm not a huge fan of. It hints at the characters being stunted in their social development.
Trips to Vegas? When there is work to be done? Besides they would know the odds of winning were so low they wouldn't bother.I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.Maybe I wasn't clear. I get that they are supposed to be super smart. But they don't have any of the swagger and confidence. That's a plausibility problem for me. I thought incredibly intelligent, gainfully employed guys in the real world would be taking trips to Vegas, not getting stuffed into the lockers.
They go for the endless shrimp buffets and hookers. They've done so on an episode.
TCG-
You just summarized what I was trying to say perfectly. I can't get into the Jr High never ends trope.
TCG-
You just summarized what I was trying to say perfectly. I can't get into the Jr High never ends trope.
I have a Psych background. ;-)
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Fair enough. I think they're going with the "Jr high never ends" trope. Which I'm not a huge fan of. It hints at the characters being stunted in their social development.I haven't seen many episodes but it seems like a stretch. Maybe I'm naive but I thought we lived in a society where people who are smart enough to actually have careers as physicists would be getting enough respect to have developed some self-confidence and social graces. It would be one thing if they were just into star-trek and comic books and whatever else they are into and had normal IQ's and worked at McDonalds, but they are successful people so I have a hard time believing in this reality where they still don't know how to talk to girls or carry themselves with any poise around "normal" guys who watch football and stuff. It seems like an alternate reality where Steve Jobs would still live in his moms house and get beat up all the time leaving his office.I think the point of the show is that they're not average or even above average intelligence. I'd wager the vast majority on the boards fall into the "above average" category or at least on somewhere on that continum.
The characters on the show are Hyper-intelligent with Sheldon being at the top of that particular scale.
To put it another way.
Essentially they're not normal-smart. They are Extremely-smart.Maybe I wasn't clear. I get that they are supposed to be super smart. But they don't have any of the swagger and confidence. That's a plausibility problem for me. I thought incredibly intelligent, gainfully employed guys in the real world would be taking trips to Vegas, not getting stuffed into the lockers.
Yeah that is a bit overplayed on that show.
1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
8.
2. Do you enjoy comics?
No.
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
Yes.
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
To a very limited degree.
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
Yes.
6. Are you a scientist?
No.
Fair enough. I think they're going with the "Jr high never ends" trope. Which I'm not a huge fan of. It hints at the characters being stunted in their social development.
If they told me these characters were freshmen in college instead of in grad school, I would find them at least believable characatures. They could have a halfway decent series about them adjusting to life after high school. Instead they do a series about manbabies who never grew up.
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1. On a scale of 1-10 do you like the BBT (with 1 being hate it).
3...on occasion it has bits that are entertaining, but as a whole, it does nothing for me.
2. Do you enjoy comics?
Yes
3. Do you enjoy gaming?
Er, I think most people who bother to create an account on this website can probably be counted as a firm "yes".
4. Do you enjoy science fiction?
Yes
5. Do you enjoy fantasy fiction?
Yes
6. Are you a scientist?
No, but I do have a B.S. in Mathematics with minor in Physics.