Tiny Creatures and Armor


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According to table 6-8 Tiny or smaller creatures divide their armor bonus by 2.

Does this apply to:
1. Shields?
2. The mage armor spells (and other spells that provide armor bonuses)?
3. Bracers of armor?
4. Enhancement bonuses on armor (including those provided by magic vestment)?

Thank you.

Dark Archive

If I remember right, it only applies to normal, non magical, armor. Mage Armor, Bracers of Armor, and bonuses via spells and magic are all normal.

For example. a +4 breastplate for a size T creature would have an AC bonus of: +7 (+4 for the magic enhancement, +3 (+6/2) for the normal breast plate).


Necroing this thread to ask a followup question: does a Tiny buckler or light shield provide +1 AC or +0 AC?

Dark Archive

Well, the book states to round down unless otherwise stated.

a tiny buckler would have an AC of +0 since you round the .5 down and I can (at the moment) find nothing in the armor section to counter act the general rule.

Part of the PDF on rounding:

Quote:
Rounding: Occasionally the rules ask you to round a result or value. Unless otherwise stated, always round down. For example, if you are asked to take half of 7, the result would be 3.


Happler wrote:

Well, the book states to round down unless otherwise stated.

a tiny buckler would have an AC of +0 since you round the .5 down and I can (at the moment) find nothing in the armor section to counter act the general rule.

Part of the PDF on rounding:

Quote:
Rounding: Occasionally the rules ask you to round a result or value. Unless otherwise stated, always round down. For example, if you are asked to take half of 7, the result would be 3.

Thanks. I always forget which way I'm supposed to round - my players correct me all the time.

I guess that it makes sense that something as small as a buckler for a Tiny creature would be pretty useless in defending it's wielder - at least until you get magic involved.


Bobson wrote:
Necroing this thread to ask a followup question: does a Tiny buckler or light shield provide +1 AC or +0 AC?

By RAW, +1. The table says the armor bonus is halved for tiny or smaller creatures. Shields do not grant an armor bonus, but a shield bonus.


Jeraa wrote:
Bobson wrote:
Necroing this thread to ask a followup question: does a Tiny buckler or light shield provide +1 AC or +0 AC?
By RAW, +1. The table says the armor bonus is halved for tiny or smaller creatures. Shields do not grant an armor bonus, but a shield bonus.

I can see that reading, but since the table is accompanied by

Quote:
Armor and shields for unusually big creatures, unusually little creatures, and non-humanoid creatures (such as horses) have different costs and weights from those given on Table: Armor and Shields. Refer to the appropriate line on Table: Armor for Unusual Creatures and apply the multipliers to cost and weight for the armor type in question.

I'd say that the intent is that it applies to both equally, unfortunately.

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