The Bludgeoner Feat and Ninja Class


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Liberty's Edge

I know that this is going to sound out of place, but here goes.

I am playing my first ninja for PFS, Not asian...not wushu, Quaderian/Slaver...very fun!!

I would like to specialize in NL damage and would like to know if the wording of this feat was a mistake or was intentionally written to exclude the only other full class with Sneak Attack from being able to do precision damage with non-lethal weapons.

Bludgeoner (Combat)
You can knock foes out cold with just about any blunt instrument.

Benefit: You take no penalty on attack rolls for using a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage.

Normal: You take a –4 penalty on attack rolls when using a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage. You cannot use a lethal weapon to deal nonlethal damage in a sneak attack.

Special: A rogue with this feat can use a lethal bludgeoning weapon to deal nonlethal damage with a sneak attack.

Sovereign Court

In general Ninjas can use anything with "Rogue" on it. The ninja is an alternate version of the rogue class.


Uhh well the first thing to realize is ninja are rogues.

Liberty's Edge

I understand this, I would like to take it, but I already got shot down on a Rogue archetype that I qualified for. I think you are right, but before I take it I would like to insure against retcon.


I'm not sure what you want to clerify. Ninja are a rogue alternate class. Its just a more complex archetype. Basically anything that implies you need to be a rogue ( that does not ask for an ability ninja traded out.) Works for ninja because every char with the ninja alternate class is a rogue.

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