Question on archetypes(specifically shapeshifter ranger)


Rules Questions


I know that certain abilities at levels granted are replaced by what the new archetype gets at that level.

So for example at 3rd level when SS receives his Shifters blessing, that takes the place of the ranger's endurance and first favored terrain? At level 4 he would then receive his animal companion at the regular interval, and then at 8th level he would receive his 2nd favored terrain, but as his first because it was never originally received? So the ability is staggered?


No, the ability replaces favored terrain completely.


In ultimate combat it says the following:

If an archetype replaces a class feature that is part of a series of improvements or additions to a base ability (such as a fighter's weapon training or a ranger's favored enemy), the next time the character would gain that ability, it counts as the lower-level ability that was replaced by the archetype. In effect, all abilities in that series are delayed until the next time the class improves that ability. For example, if an archetype replaces a rogue's +2d6 sneak attack bonus at 3rd level, when she reaches 5th level and gains a sneak attack bonus, her sneak attack doesn't jump from +1d6 to +3d6—it improves to +2d6, just as if she had finally gained the increase at 3rd level. This adjustment continues for every level at which her sneak attack would improve, until at 19th level she has +9d6 instead of the +10d6 of a standard rogue.

The reason why I ask is because on some abilities it expressly states, and in the chance of the favored terrain/shifter's blessing it doesn't expressly state it replaces the whole series.


Favoured Terrain is completely removed. At each level you would get a new terrain, you instead choose a new form of Shifter's Blessing.

PFSRD wrote:
At 8th level and again every five levels thereafter, the ranger may select an additional form for his shifter's blessing and may use this ability one additional time per day. This is not a polymorph ability; a ranger with shifter's blessing in one of his shifted forms can be affected by a polymorph ability and retain his bonus and traits gained by the class feature. This ability replaces favored terrain.

Since you get a boost to Shifter's Blessing at each level you would normally gain a boost to the Favoured Terrain, you lose the latter ability entirely.


I completely missed that paragraph. Thank you all for the help. I appreciate it.

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