Out of curiosity...


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Can a creature that can fly, but is exhausted, fly?

"A flying creature cannot fly if it is at medium load or heavier."

I'm aware that body weight is not included in calculating carrying weight, but if your own body weight ends up being heavier than your light load, can you still fly?

Example: (recent campaign example) Against an ancient black dragon. I believe the ancient black dragon weighs like 2500-3000 pounds. Normally not an issue since they don't carry anything. However, spellcaster casts waves of exhaustion and bypasses the dragon's SR. Since there's no save, the dragon becomes exhausted. Str of 33. Thus, light load of 4800. Exhaustion gives a -6 str and dex putting it at 27 str, meaning it's new light load is 2076. If it's light load is 2076, but it weighs 2500-3000 pounds, would it still, realistically, be able to fly?

Thoughts?


Yes, a flying creature can still fly (at half speed) despite being exhausted, just like a human can still walk when being exhausted.

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Even if it weighs more than it's light load? For example, a human that weighs 300 pounds because it's overweight, and is weak due to inactivity, sure can walk, but slowly and with difficult. But can't jump. Or at least, not for long.


Well, you can make houserules, of course. But as far as the rules themselves are concerned, the dragon can fly (slowly), and the overweight human can jump (barely).

Realistically, a dragon probably couldn't fly unless its flight was powered by magic in the first place :)


Lots of people weigh more than their light load if they have 10 strength for example Can they not move that fast. It is in addition to your weight.


Seeing as how I weigh more now than I ever have, I would say they slow down if their mass equals a medium load.

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