One for the left and one for the right.
\oo/
He's not a rock star!
Have you posted a music link yet, Comrade Inaros? [Sharpens final blade]
Ooh! You defiant little....
[ahem]
Ex-comrade Inaros, in the name of the Executive Council of the Presidium of the Revolutionary Tribunal and with the power accorded to me by the Galtic Committee of Public Safety, for the counterrevolutionary crime of not providing even one measly music link, you are hereby sentenced to be taken out behind Razor Jenny and spanked until you see the error of your ways.
Vive le Galt!
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Green Pride!
Yes, I am aware that Tom Morello is a guitarist.He's actually been performing for the last couple years as The Night Watchman where he does sing. Badly, imho.
Of course, I never really cared for Rage, either.
Wow Man, do you not listen to the lyrics? Its crystal clear what their politics are. I don't need a Stormfront forum or google to tell me.Anti-racist and anti-capitalist, sure. Anti-American is empty rhetoric. But anti-white? See, I didn't see a single line there that was anti-white. Can you point them out to me and explain them?
Also, a white person can have pride in the accomplishments of his/her race, just like a black person has pride in their heritage. I hear about the achievements of blacks every day during black history month. That does not mean they desire supremacy over other races.Tell me more about this white pride you believe in. In fact, I'd be interested in hearing all of your theories about the "white race".
How many race cards do you have laying around?
Let me give you a scenario, I'd like to hear what you think.
During my senior year in a diverse public high school the African American club had the school bring in this black performing arts group. It could have been for black history month. The entire school was there and classes cancelled for 2 hours.
The entire performance and dance was full of afrocentric insanities like ancient Greeks are really black, the ancient Israelites were black to more subtle things like "the darker the berry the sweeter the juice references." They got me rolling with the assertion that more melanin in your skin meant that you were more social and better able to create civilizations and social order, something like that.
As a finale the performing arts group wanted everyone in the assembly to chant "black power" "I'm black and I'm proud" "All power to the people" over and over.
Even though I grew up on Public enemy and N.W.A. this was f*up. What was the school thinking? The African Amerian club thought this was appropriate.
Being proud of my European heritage is not controversial Man. It has nothing to do with the supremacy smear you are apt at giving.
Who is Alex Jones?[Turns to the lefties]
He's pretty cool, I think. I mean, you know, if you take him with a shaker of salt.
But he's got a better round-up of national police brutality cases than any other site I've ever seen.
Thanks! Found him and this article.
Mustaines interview
Old-school link for my metalhead friendz
YEAH! Love Cavalera. Saw him recently at a Soulfly show. Small venue, nice pit!
Heretic.Yes, I am aware that Tom Morello is a guitarist.He's actually been performing for the last couple years as The Night Watchman where he does sing. Badly, imho.
Of course, I never really cared for Rage, either.
I don't dislike Rage. But, well...
I am recovering music snob. When I was younger I was very, very doctrinaire and hipper-than-thou. Although I've taken many a 12-step program to shed this ridiculous disability, I am unable to remove this snobbiness when it comes to bands that were popular when I was 14-16.
Also, being the only communist in a high school of kids walking around with Che Guevara t-shirts who had no idea what it meant didn't make me very happy, either.
But, like I said, I'm recovering.
Heretic.Yes, I am aware that Tom Morello is a guitarist.He's actually been performing for the last couple years as The Night Watchman where he does sing. Badly, imho.
Of course, I never really cared for Rage, either.
I don't dislike Rage. But, well...
I am recovering music snob. When I was younger I was very, very doctrinaire and hipper-than-thou. Although I've taken many a 12-step program to shed this ridiculous disability, I am unable to remove this snobbiness when it comes to bands that were popular when I was 14-16.
Also, being the only communist in a high school of kids walking around with Che Guevara t-shirts who had no idea what it meant didn't make me very happy, either.
But, like I said, I'm recovering.
Baby steps, man. :-)
As for The Night Watchman--
I have seen him live a couple times--once at some leftie fundraiser with Billy Bragg and Steve Earle and one of the frickin' Chambers Brothers--and he sucks.
Or better yet, drop it.
Heretic.Yes, I am aware that Tom Morello is a guitarist.He's actually been performing for the last couple years as The Night Watchman where he does sing. Badly, imho.
Of course, I never really cared for Rage, either.
I don't dislike Rage. But, well...
I am recovering music snob. When I was younger I was very, very doctrinaire and hipper-than-thou. Although I've taken many a 12-step program to shed this ridiculous disability, I am unable to remove this snobbiness when it comes to bands that were popular when I was 14-16.
Also, being the only communist in a high school of kids walking around with Che Guevara t-shirts who had no idea what it meant didn't make me very happy, either.
But, like I said, I'm recovering.
Yeah I remember trying to figure out what he was talking about. Did a lot of research. Still not sure what he meant by "A warning to mediterranean governments". A lot came to mind.
I got tired of being a "usefull idiot" so I stopped listening and tossed my CCCP hockey jersey. No offense Anklebiter.Favorite line: "secret, drunk, brutal, dirty and rich"! Aside from the dirty & rich, that best describes my pre married life! ;)
Let me give you a scenario, I'd like to hear what you think.Nope, not interested in changing the subject to your "black people are the real racists!" scenario that happened with unspecified people at an unspecified time and really actually happened and totally isn't s#@~thatdidnthappen.txt at all.
How many race cards do you have laying around?I don't recall anyone at all talking about race in this thread until you brought it up. You don't get to spout racist rhetoric, and then complain about the "race card" when someone calls you out for the things you said. So, again, what exactly is anti-white about Rage Against The Machine?
I didn't imply or say "black people are the real racists!" I'm sure you are not so ill informed to not know about "performing arts" groups like the one I mentioned.
I said that I find Rages lyrics anti white. That is not "spouting racist rhetoric." Why are you making things up? The subject was not about race until you said my rhetoric sounds like a stormfront forum and white supremacy.
Someone listening to Slayer (who I like) would say they are anti religious and are somewhat satanic. Its pretty clear if you listen to what they are saying.
I said that I find Rages lyrics anti white. That is not "spouting racist rhetoric." Why are you making things up? The subject was not about race until you said my rhetoric sounds like a stormfront forum and white supremacy.
You just said two contradictory things.
The subject was not about race until you called RATM's lyrics anti-white. You brought it up. And you still don't have any examples.
Iron Maiden has always struck me as anti-albatross.
Now that I think about it so is PiL.
I mean their lyrics are literally:"Getting rid of the albatross
sewing the seeds of discontent
I know you very well
You are unbearable"
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So for people who go to and enjoy metal shows, what is the secret? I haven't been to a single live music event that I liked other than the orchestra. Everything else has been crowded, smelly (weed), hard to actually hear the music, hard to get drinks, and full of douchebags. Like people trying to mosh through auditorium seats.
Perhaps it is just Vancouver's music scene. Or maybe I am the problem :)
Yeah, I'm generally not a fan of live shows. There are some bands that put on such a show that you have to see them live. Like the Flaming Lips. That's video I took at a show they did with Garbage here in Madison last week. Then there's the part where he gets in a giant hamster ball and walks over the audience but no, I never had the desire to go to metal shows.
There is a whole bunch of slightly older indie acts whose crowds are much more subdued and appreciative, rather than wanting to mosh or what have you. Those are the shows I go to.
Yeah I remember trying to figure out what he was talking about. Did a lot of research. Still not sure what he meant by "A warning to mediterranean governments". A lot came to mind.
Hmmm, that is a good question, Citizen Aretas. The CIA-Gangster-Capitalism connection was up to quite a bit on both sides of the Mediterranean from Gibraltar to the Red Sea during the early seventies.
Imho, club shows are much better than outdoor festivals or anywhere with auditorium seats. I avoid those if possible.
The last time I broke down and went to one of those was Radiohead at Great Woods south of Boston. Man, that show sucked.
Also, Comrade Hawkshaw? That smell? [bubble bubble bubble] That's what makes concerts so great.
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So for people who go to and enjoy metal shows, what is the secret? I haven't been to a single live music event that I liked other than the orchestra. Everything else has been crowded, smelly (weed), hard to actually hear the music, hard to get drinks, and full of douchebags. Like people trying to mosh through auditorium seats.
Perhaps it is just Vancouver's music scene. Or maybe I am the problem :)
Smaller venues with bands that are good people will always be better. Saw Himsa at a smaller club and they were cool. In the middle of one song the singer asked the crowd "who knows the lyrics?" and when one guys jumped up yelling he did they pulled him onstage, handed him the mic and they lead told them to go on he needed a beer. This dude from the crowd rocked it while he did indeed go get his beer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3pMJBDTtMM
I saw Belle and Sebastian at the Orpheum in Boston (which does have auditorium seats--but it's an old-school theater) and they decided to do a Pixies tribute and invited a woman from the audience to the stage to sing "Gigantic." The woman only knew the first verse and the chorus, but admirably ad-libbed lyrics about her boyfriend who, as she sang, is sitting over there.
It was cute.
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Imho, club shows are much better than outdoor festivals or anywhere with auditorium seats. I avoid those if possible.
The last time I broke down and went to one of those was Radiohead at Great Woods south of Boston. Man, that show sucked.
Also, Comrade Hawkshaw? That smell? [bubble bubble bubble] That's what makes concerts so great.
Opiates are the opiate of the masses!
I've been to see Apocalyptica a few times. Came away disapointed. Saw some punk acts at the Astoria same thing. Only band I've been to and enjoyed was the Darkest of the Hillside Thickets who play smaller bars.
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Iron Maiden has always struck me as anti-albatross.
Albatross? ----thats the first band Id ever seen live.
Also Candidate Anklebiter is correct, club venues are the shiznit. Got onstage with Peter Steele at the late lamented Crowbar once. Accidently knocked over his mike stand, noticed how much bigger than me he was, then helped his roady set it back up.
Also, used to hang out with Clutch, Dope, and Cold whenever they would play at the afore-mentioned Crowbar. Wild times, man.
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Can we please get back to singing songs about doing deals with the devil again?
OBEY!
What's a shame is that Mustaine will no longer sing this track any more due to the demonic influence involved. A clear shame, actually.
Besides, Vindicator is where it's at these days if you want to get that feeling like you did in the 80's when listening to Dave as he was beginning to make his break into the limelight with that sophomore album.
Meat: It's ok that you are so, so, wrong about this, but hey, if you make products I won't hold it against you. ;)
And really, instead of Hangar 18 you can just crank some Diamond Head, Angel Witch, or Saxon and you're ok in my book. ;)
Speaking of Angel Witch, they're back after FOURTEEN LONG YEARS with a new album released back in March.
Yesssssssssss.......!
Ugh, all you metalheads, /shudder.
Some of us prefer Bad Religion, their songs are very short, but literate.
Runk Pock 4eva!!
Hey Dicey:
<Bad Religion related threadjack>
</Bad Religion related threadjack>
Someone listening to Slayer (who I like) would say they are anti religious and are somewhat satanic. Its pretty clear if you listen to what they are saying.
That's like calling Cannibal Corpse somewhat serial killers.
Hanneman and King are anti-religious. However, Lombardo is Christian and Araya is specifically Catholic.
Slayer is hardly Satanic. Just like people saying that Venom was Satanic.
Biggest joke ever.
So for people who go to and enjoy metal shows, what is the secret? I haven't been to a single live music event that I liked other than the orchestra. Everything else has been crowded, smelly (weed), hard to actually hear the music, hard to get drinks, and full of douchebags. Like people trying to mosh through auditorium seats.
Perhaps it is just Vancouver's music scene. Or maybe I am the problem :)
Depends on the metal show, I guess. Admittedly, a number of them can go that route. Or you can check out the local or smaller acts that come through where you can avoid some of those riff-raffs. There's so many sub-genres to choose from.
Me? Hundreds and hundreds of shows. Hell, I may have hit over a thousand events by now.
Now only if we had awesome festivals in the U.S. like they do over in Europe. <sniffle>
Someone listening to Slayer (who I like) would say they are anti religious and are somewhat satanic. Its pretty clear if you listen to what they are saying.That's like calling Cannibal Corpse somewhat serial killers.
Hanneman and King are anti-religious. However, Lombardo is Christian and Araya is specifically Catholic.
Slayer is hardly Satanic. Just like people saying that Venom was Satanic.
Biggest joke ever.
King writes all the lyrics.
One of my favorite Devilish Slayer tunes. It does not get better than this! Altar of sacrifice. Love how it rolls into Jesus saves!
Nicest guy in the business
"Blood turning black, the change has begun
Feeling the hatred of all damned in Hell
Flesh starts to burn, twist and deform
Eyes dripping blood realization of death
Transforming of five toes to two
Learn the sacred words of praise, hail Satan"
F*cking SLAAAAAYER!
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King writes all the lyrics.
Actually, the lyrics tends to spread almost equally between Hanneman and King (but with Araya contributing intermittently).
F*cking SLAAAAAYER!
Absolutely. One of my top 5 favorites and best of the 'Big Four', IMHO. Been seeing them live for almost the past 25 years.
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What did it mean when the American punks said "With just a touch of my burning hand, I send my astro zombies to rape the land, prime directive: exterminate the whole human race"?
It shows the tremendous difference between American Punk/Hardcore from the 1st and 2nd wave punk coming out of the UK.
Early UK punk was anti-music scene and anti-authority, and a reaction to their economic situation. The heavy political message was tacked on later when the scene was co-opted by people pushing a political agenda (besides crass which came along early) and using punk as a vehicle.
American punk or early hardcore was more introverted - hatred of your environment, yourself, conformity and rules foisted on American kids as baby boomers started having families and were seeking safety and utopia. Everyone was told it was going to be the best time, but the American punk and hardcore scene were saying "no, it isn't".
I'm not saying that they were totally different from each other, but they both had a different genesis, and as such were focused and expressed in differing ways.
IMO, political punk bands were the best and most memorable - Fear, Black Flag, Angry Samoans, early SD, The Germs, the Misfits. I mean DK is ok, but every other idiot was parroting what they were doing after their first album.
In the quote you referenced I think Glen was manifesting his own version of the "I've had it" theme which was prevalent in the hardcore scene at the time, just with a horror theme that he liked and was important in his life.
Oh yeah, and with zombies.
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The Clash
Stiff Little Fingers
The Mekons
Crass
Pere Ubu
The Ramones
The Dils
The Zero Boys
And for Lord Dice:
Bad Religion
IMO, political punk bands were the best and most memorable - Fear, Black Flag, Angry Samoans, early SD, The Germs, the Misfits. I mean DK is ok, but every other idiot was parroting what they were doing after their first album.
Speaking of Fear, the original release of MD.45's The Craving back in 1996 with Lee Ving on vocals is still superior to the remastered version released in 2004 with Mustaine. Mustaine admittedly did that to appease Megadeth fans and to pull in more sales (and likely to cut himself a better share of the profits). In fact, it sounds like he's even attempting to emulate Ving's vocal style.
YMMV.
Hell's Motel, original version w/ Ving.
Hell's Motel, remastered version w/ Mustaine.
****
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I think some of the MD.45 songs work better with Dave's vocals. Namely Hell's Motel (sorry), Road Man, and the Creed. Ving's vocals are better on all the other tunes (at least to my ear).
spends one MLP friendship point to clomp Mona in the head with a hoof to listen to Hell's Motel again to see if he hears it any differently.
;-)
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IMO, political punk bands were the best and most memorable - Fear, Black Flag, Angry Samoans, early SD, The Germs, the Misfits. I mean DK is ok, but every other idiot was parroting what they were doing after their first album.
Too late to fix this in my original post but it should be apolitical, not political.
Sooner or later, you're gonna listen to Ralph Nader.
buzzcocks are the best IMHO. They played a free show at the student union once. Awesome.