I was merely asking if there was a different thread that had been started about police malfeasance, as I thought there had been.
I don't recall such a thread, per se, just a recurring theme in this thread and other threads in the past, such as the various Stop and Frish ones, et. al.
My Facebook feed is still full of them, though.
Since I know you love kids, Arresting Children Is Now Commonplace in America.
Today in history:
Phillip Gibbs and James Earl Green killed at Jackson State, 1970
And since I wouldn't want anyone to say I'm going all soft on MSNBC:
Texas to try secret lethal drug in execution
this worries me. I don't think killing someone should be as complicated as its being made here. Someone f##+ed up. They should be punished administratively.
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And since I wouldn't want anyone to say I'm going all soft on MSNBC:
damn Good articles.
You know, I much preferred it when Comrades Thorn and Knife did the police brutality stuff, but I've heard my comrades saying, "We've got to do more about this, we're just leaving the field clear for the libertarians" and I felt guilty, so:
Oklahoma Police Beat Man To Death In Front Of Family For Trying To Defuse A Family Fight
:)
I have hazy memories of this incident. Most people were on her side. I would have loved to see the video.
I've seen clips on such sources as Democracy Now!, etc.
I loved this bit from the latest issue of my favorite commie rag:
"Cecily McMillan joined the tamely reformist Democratic Socialists of America at college in Wisconsin and argued from the first that Occupy should embrace nonviolence. She was preparing her master's thesis on her political hero Bayard Rustin, a social democrat who was central to maintaining the nonviolent road of the liberal-led civil rights movement. During her testimony, she stated: 'I'm a completely nonviolent activist and I've been through extensive training to make sure that no part of my body could ever be used to hurt others.'
"Such an honest declaration means nothing to the cops and courts, whose job is to enforce the capitalist order of exploitation and oppression, and who have been ferocious against any form of social protest. This is clearly a trophy conviction for the city and its thugs in blue. All leftists and other targets of the NYPD must demand: Free Cecily McMillan Now!"
Vive le Galt!!!!!
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Not being a New Yorker, nor someone who spends much time reading The New York Times, I had totally missed this year-long expose of the crimes of Detective Louis Scarcella.
Not being a New Yorker, nor someone who spends much time reading The New York Times, I had totally missed this year-long expose of the crimes of Detective Louis Scarcella.
lots of cases being reopened in Brooklyn as well.
HD, thoughts?
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Well, America, we had a good run:
SWAT Teams are not subject to open records because reasons...
Note that this is in New England. This may just be Anklebiter's fault. Darn commie!
We can trust the government, right? ...right?
Well, America, we had a good run:
SWAT Teams are not subject to open records because reasons...
Note that this is in New England. This may just be Anklebiter's fault. Darn commie!
We can trust the government, right? ...right?
Every day, we get closer and closer to making Shadowrun reality...
Well, America, we had a good run:
SWAT Teams are not subject to open records because reasons...
Note that this is in New England. This may just be Anklebiter's fault. Darn commie!
In Teamsters Local 25, we call the NEMLECs the Ninja Turtles.
I find it interesting how most folks don't yet realize that law enforcers are the enemy, but there is a growing segment of society who are more afraid of the cops than the "criminals".
Some folks are starting to wake up.
I find it interesting how most folks don't yet realize that law enforcers are the enemy, but there is a growing segment of society who are more afraid of the cops than the "criminals".
Some folks are starting to wake up.
All cops are the enemy? I don't think that, and I don't think you think that either. Are there some truly awful police out there and the police that protect them out of cameraderie a part of this problem? Oh hells yeah. Especialy with some(not all) of the utter crap that came out of OWS.
All cops are the enemy? I don't think that, and I don't think you think that either. Are there some truly awful police out there and the police that protect them out of cameraderie a part of this problem? Oh hells yeah. Especialy with some(not all) of the utter crap that came out of OWS.I find it interesting how most folks don't yet realize that law enforcers are the enemy, but there is a growing segment of society who are more afraid of the cops than the "criminals".
Some folks are starting to wake up.
I don't think any group is monolithic, but the law enforcement and legal systems are increasingly systemically corrupt. The relationship between citizens and law enforcers is generally moving away "serve and protect" and toward "ticket, seize, and intimidate" IME. Sometimes cops are more dangerous to mostly law abiding citizens than the "criminals". When a woman calls 911 and gets raped by the responding uniformed officer on duty and the department tries to cover it up there might be a larger problem than one cops bad behavior. I think the system is corrupt throughout, enforcement, courts, prison, parole, probation etc. There are still decent individuals in law enforcement and some are my friends. There are vast differences in different communities and regions, but I see a systemic shift in policing. I don't think it's prudent any more to assume law enforcers have our best interests at heart. I don't see any changes coming that would reverse the trend of increasing hostility between enforcers and citizens, and law enforcement culture seems to be trending in an increasingly adversarial direction. Obviously not every cop, prison guard, and deputy are rapists, but it seems very unwise to me to engage in any interaction with law enforcement assuming that this particular interaction is with one of the good guys.
I get that there have always been bad cops. I have had personal experience with a number of them, but over the past three decades I believe I have observed a major shift in the culture of law enforcement as it relates to the people that they are supposed to serve and protect. Some law enforcers still feel a duty to be servants to their communities; others behave like an occupying force in hostile territory and anyone who questions their authority is the enemy. I think a lot of variables such as the increasingly militaristic war on drugs and diminishing civil liberties and transparency contribute to this cultural shift, but whatever the causes are, law enforcers and the legal system in general have forfeited the benefit of the doubt in my mind. I will start from the presumption that law enforcers are hostile to my liberty and interests until they demonstrate otherwise.
I should have said many law enforcers are the enemy. It's wrong of me to make a universal generalization like that, and I should have qualified my statement more thoughtfully.
That said I still think the legal system is systemically corrupt, and I think it is more important than ever that we as citizens diligently defend our rights and interests against that corrupt system.
Does this mean I can shoot police dogs for looking at me funny? After all, unlike most pets, police dogs are actually trained in attacking people.
Does this mean I can shoot police dogs for looking at me funny? After all, unlike most pets, police dogs are actually trained in attacking people.
It's quite the double standard. A cop can trespass on your property and kill the family pet, but if someone shoots a police dog they are almost certain to face felony charges.
Cop Shoots Dog Hanging Out With Kids in the Face, Claims Self-Defense
I want to hear more about this story. Why was the cop there in the first place? There's something missing here, unlike the second story. THAT guy needs to lose his badge, do some time, and get a LOT of help. A shar-pei? If you can't defend yourself from that without drawing a knife, something's really wrong.
Cop Who Shot Cats in Front of Kids Now Shoots Raccoon in Front of Kids
This guy shouldn't be in animal control. He needs to be an exterminator. I think he really, REALLY got the wrong job. We see that in animal control sometimes around here.
Cop Who Shot Cats in Front of Kids Now Shoots Raccoon in Front of KidsThis guy shouldn't be in animal control. He needs to be an exterminator. I think he really, REALLY got the wrong job. We see that in animal control sometimes around here.
I find it interesting that this guy is a ~30 year LE veteran and former SWAT commander.
I'd like to know more about that.
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Cop Shoots Dog Hanging Out With Kids in the Face, Claims Self-DefenseI want to hear more about this story. Why was the cop there in the first place? There's something missing here, unlike the second story. THAT guy needs to lose his badge, do some time, and get a LOT of help. A shar-pei? If you can't defend yourself from that without drawing a knife, something's really wrong.
They can be very tough dogs, but this sounds like an act of public brutality, and I wonder what motivated it.
I have had friends in law enforcement admit that gunning the family dog down right in front of the family during a raid is "making a point". A SWAT team member in nomex and body armor with a sub machine gun who says he machine gunned the family cocker spaniel because he feared for his life doesn't even pass the laugh test. The point is to terrorize the target of the raid.
I don't know what this guy's motives were, but it seems suspicious to me.
I think it's note worthy that the department defended this shooting as routine and proper.
Defiant: Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan has sided with his deputies, saying that the use of force against Middleton was appropriate because he had failed to immediately comply with their orders
‘There was nothing glaringly apparent to us that the officers did that was out of the ordinary in the given set of circumstances as have been given to us,’ Morgan said in an interview with CNN
EDIT:Does anyone know the current disposition of the investigation or civil action?
300 pound Probation officer fatally shoots 12-pound dog
"He stated that he gave the dog verbal commands to get back but the dog continued to come towards him in an aggressive manner so he fired one shot at the dog using his duty weapon."
Defiant: Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan has sided with his deputies, saying that the use of force against Middleton was appropriate because he had failed to immediately comply with their orders
Wut
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I somehow doubt the police training manual says, "Issue an order, count to one, and then blast away."
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."[/url]
Pfft.
Colorado man suing for $1M in damages after police kill his dog
Police gun down terrified dog after it's leashed. Cleared of all criminal wrong doing.
Caution: troubling video
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Does this mean I can shoot police dogs for looking at me funny? After all, unlike most pets, police dogs are actually trained in attacking people.It's quite the double standard. A cop can trespass on your property and kill the family pet, but if someone shoots a police dog they are almost certain to face felony charges.
That sounds a bit pessimistic. I don't think that they would be charged with a felony!
Of course, being shot to death by the cops may not be an improvement...
Defiant: Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan has sided with his deputies, saying that the use of force against Middleton was appropriate because he had failed to immediately comply with their ordersWut
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I somehow doubt the police training manual says, "Issue an order, count to one, and then blast away."
Evidently failure to instantly obey all police commands merits summery execution in this jurisdiction.
He is fortunate the the deputies missed with 13 of 15 shots in a driveway.
*facepalm*
Does this mean I can shoot police dogs for looking at me funny? After all, unlike most pets, police dogs are actually trained in attacking people.It's quite the double standard. A cop can trespass on your property and kill the family pet, but if someone shoots a police dog they are almost certain to face felony charges.That sounds a bit pessimistic. I don't think that they would be charged with a felony!
Of course, being shot to death by the cops may not be an improvement...
By law, police dogs are the same as human police officers. And shooting an officer is a felony (technically, it's two felonies: assaulting an officer and murder).
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."[/url]Pfft.
Wow!
I think the shooter was private security with LEO background, but wow.
Does this mean I can shoot police dogs for looking at me funny? After all, unlike most pets, police dogs are actually trained in attacking people.It's quite the double standard. A cop can trespass on your property and kill the family pet, but if someone shoots a police dog they are almost certain to face felony charges.That sounds a bit pessimistic. I don't think that they would be charged with a felony!
Of course, being shot to death by the cops may not be an improvement...
Federal Law Now Protects Canine Cops
Under the Federal Law Enforcement Animal Protection Act, which went into effect this week, anyone convicted of purposely assaulting, maiming, or killing federal law enforcement animals such as police dogs and horses could be fined at least $1,000 and spend up to 10 years in prison. Previously, the animals were covered by a variety of state, rather than federal, laws.
Woman says police shot puppy in the head after she asked them not to shoot it… twice
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."
Glad to know the dog made it, however this story seems a bit slanted. I am not a dog person in the slightest, but I'm confident that's NOT a puppy. I also find the idea of the cops allowing someone who stole a vehicle to clean it before they process it to be a bit strange. And then another cop pulls up with the gun already drawn an opens fire when a other officers are already there? This article isn't very well written.
I think it's note worthy that the department defended this shooting as routine and proper.
Defiant: Escambia County Sheriff David Morgan has sided with his deputies, saying that the use of force against Middleton was appropriate because he had failed to immediately comply with their orders
‘There was nothing glaringly apparent to us that the officers did that was out of the ordinary in the given set of circumstances as have been given to us,’ Morgan said in an interview with CNN
EDIT:Does anyone know the current disposition of the investigation or civil action?
i would like to know more here as well. This story sounds rather suspicious, and I hope he gets somewhere with his suit.
Glad to know the dog made it, however this story seems a bit slanted. I am not a dog person in the slightest, but I'm confident that's NOT a puppy. I also find the idea of the cops allowing someone who stole a vehicle to clean it before they process it to be a bit strange. And then another cop pulls up with the gun already drawn an opens fire when a other officers are already there? This article isn't very well written.Woman says police shot puppy in the head after she asked them not to shoot it… twice
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."
We had an 11 month old rottie who was over a hundred pounds and still very much a puppy.
Glad to know the dog made it, however this story seems a bit slanted. I am not a dog person in the slightest, but I'm confident that's NOT a puppy. I also find the idea of the cops allowing someone who stole a vehicle to clean it before they process it to be a bit strange. And then another cop pulls up with the gun already drawn an opens fire when a other officers are already there? This article isn't very well written.Woman says police shot puppy in the head after she asked them not to shoot it… twice
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."
It's a puppy. Some of the larger breeds of dogs are fairly good size even while still in their first six months of life.
Glad to know the dog made it, however this story seems a bit slanted. I am not a dog person in the slightest, but I'm confident that's NOT a puppy. I also find the idea of the cops allowing someone who stole a vehicle to clean it before they process it to be a bit strange. And then another cop pulls up with the gun already drawn an opens fire when a other officers are already there? This article isn't very well written.Woman says police shot puppy in the head after she asked them not to shoot it… twice
Famous last words: "PLEASE don't shoot my dogs, they are my babies."
As near as I can tell, the person "allowing" the alleged criminal to clean the allegedly stolen property is the dog-owner's roommate, not a police officer.
Thus, it is the first cop, not "another" cop, who shows up and shoots the dog.