Doubling up combat trick


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Silver Crusade

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Is it possible to "technically" take two combat trick talents by taking the rogue combat trick, then taking combat trick from the ninja trick talent? (I really hope that made as much sense as it did to me :) )

Silver Crusade

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I can't remember for the life of me where it is located (as I'm looking at the time of this posting), but there's an explicit rule I recall that states that you can't take a rogue talent AND ninja trick of the same name.

EDIT: Ah, here we are, in the case of being a ninja:

prd wrote:

Rogue Talent: The ninja can select a rogue talent in place of a ninja trick. The ninja cannot select a rogue talent that has the same name as a ninja trick. The ninja can select this talent multiple times.

As for being a rogue wanting ninja tricks (instead of vice-versa):

prd wrote:
Ninja Trick (Ex): A rogue with this talent can choose a trick from the ninja trick list. The rogue can choose but cannot use talents that require ki points, unless she has a ki pool. A rogue can pick this talent more than once.

RAW, sure, you *could* take more than one use of combat training in this case, but I'm fairly certain this isn't what was intended.

Silver Crusade

I thought the same thing, but haven't been able to find where I saw that...

Silver Crusade

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Personally, I wouldn't try pulling something like this, I'd feel dirty...

Silver Crusade

I'd be fine with it for home games, but for society play I need an answer. I don't intend to just try it and see if the gm lets me get away with it, but I also need to know not only for player purposes, but also for me being a gm purposes.

Scarab Sages

If I'm understanding the chain of events here, you are taking combat trick as a rogue talent, and then taking Ninja Trick->Rogue Talent->Combat trick, correct?
I would rule in this instance that the phrase "The ninja cannot select a rogue talent that has the same name as a ninja trick" uses "the ninja" to mean the person taking the ability, not the person with class levels in Ninja, so Combat Trick would not be a viable use of the Ninja Trick or Rogue Talent abilities.

Unfortunately, they left the wording out of the Ninja Trick ability for the rogue it looks like, so there is a little room to argue here. At worst, a rogue could use ninja trick to gain an extra use of combat trick, but a ninja could not use rogue talent to gain an extra use.

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