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The Dragon Ferocity feat states that if you take it, you are allowed to take the Elemental Fist feat without meeting the prerequisites, and, if you are a monk, you may "use the feat as if you were a monk of the four winds".
The Elemental Fist feat itself does state that a monk of the four winds gains the feat for free, but when it comes to the daily uses, it just says "A monk with the Elemental Fist feat may use it a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus an additional time per day per four levels of a class other than monk."
So the Elemental Fist feat doesn't have any extra uses for a monk of the four winds. That comes from the Monk of the Four Winds' first class feature, which makes the Elemental Fist feat's damage scale pretty decently with your level.
So my question here is, if I'm a normal monk and I grab Dragon Ferocity, and then I spend a feat slot to take Elemental Fist, do I get the scaling damage progression as if I was a monk of the four winds?
Also, can you use Stunning Fist and Elemental Fist on the same unarmed strike?
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So my question here is, if I'm a normal monk and I grab Dragon Ferocity, and then I spend a feat slot to take Elemental Fist, do I get the scaling damage progression as if I was a monk of the four winds?
Well, as you yourself noted, that's the only thing that using the feat "as a monk of the four winds" means - everything else is open to any monk. I don't really know where the confusion comes in. What other option is there?
Also, can you use Stunning Fist and Elemental Fist on the same unarmed strike?
Yep. Though I prefer to hit the target with a stunning fist on the first attack of a flurry and then use elemental fist on a later one once they're stunned, to improve the odds that I'm not wasting all that tasty extra damage.
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So my question here is, if I'm a normal monk and I grab Dragon Ferocity, and then I spend a feat slot to take Elemental Fist, do I get the scaling damage progression as if I was a monk of the four winds?Well, as you yourself noted, that's the only thing that using the feat "as a monk of the four winds" means - everything else is open to any monk. I don't really know where the confusion comes in. What other option is there?
I guess. The idea that just taking a feat gives you a pretty nice class feature and a significant advantage when using a different feat (in addition to ignoring the feat's prerequisites and the bonuses granted by Dragon Ferocity in the first place) just sounded too good to be true.
Also, can you use Stunning Fist and Elemental Fist on the same unarmed strike?Yep. Though I prefer to hit the target with a stunning fist on the first attack of a flurry and then use elemental fist on a later one once they're stunned, to improve the odds that I'm not wasting all that tasty extra damage.
Ah, good call. Thank you for your help, fellow Andoran!