Switching off tiger pounce?


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So, someone has Tiger Style with Tiger Pounce, the Master of Combat Styles feat, and some other style. Then they do this:

1.Switch on tiger style (free action).
2.Attack with power attack, choosing to use tiger pounce to take the power attack penalty to AC instead of AB.
3.Switch off tiger style (free action). With tiger style deactivated, the penalty from power attack must revert to an AB penalty.

In other words, take the power attack penalty to your AC while you're the one making the attacks, and then take the power attack penalty to AB while you're defending. Should it be allowed? On a related note, can you simply choose to 'switch off' tiger style, or do you need to actually be replacing it?


I think changing stances can only occur once a round. The action is free, but the effect has a duration, I don't think you can choose to turn it on and off inside the same round.


Using a stance is a swift action, not a free:

Spoiler:
As a swift action, you can enter the stance employed by the fighting style a style feat embodies. Although you cannot use a style feat before combat begins, the style you are in persists until you spend a swift action to switch to a different combat style. You can use a feat that has a style feat as a prerequisite only while in the stance of the associated style. For example, if you have feats associated with Mantis Style and Tiger Style, you can use a swift action to adopt Tiger Style at the start of one turn, and then can use other feats that have Tiger Style as a prerequisite. By using another swift action at the start of your next turn, you could adopt Mantis Style and use other feats that have Mantis Style as a prerequisite.

you unfortunately only receive one swift action a turn.


Trogdar wrote:
I think changing stances can only occur once a round. The action is free, but the effect has a duration, I don't think you can choose to turn it on and off inside the same round.

If stances have a minimum effect duration, then what would it mean if you changed stances in the middle of your turn? You don't get the effect of the new stance until next turn, or you don't lose the effect of the old one until the turn ends? It would make sense if there was a rule saying you can't turn a stance both on and off in a single round, though I don't remember seeing one.

Even if you were only allowed to turn tiger style off during a round, the same situation can still occur if you start with tiger style on...


Glutton wrote:

Using a stance is a swift action, not a free:

** spoiler omitted **

you unfortunately only receive one swift action a turn.

Master of Combat Styles Feat.


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Hah, mechanically, there appears no way to just stop being in a style during combat, you can only switch to another, I'm getting a bad image of a runaway train.

"HELP ME I'M IN MONKEY STYLE AND I JUST CAN'T STOP!!"

Sanity dictates you'll have to come up with your own answer, as the rules don't feel like covering it from what I've seen.


Glutton wrote:
"HELP ME I'M IN MONKEY STYLE AND I JUST CAN'T STOP!!"

1,000,000 points if you also visualized the classic simpsons moment. "Can't...stop...doing...the monkey...."

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