Mistake in buying

[PeteZero]

So, I was absolutely sure my summoner could use a pearl of power, and bouht one. never used it, until the last scenario, where the GM told me, sorry, not for you - and yes, he was right. So, am I stuck with it and can only sell it for half price, or due to an honest mistake can get full refund. Thanks for any help.

[Jiggy]

Unfortunately, you can only sell it back for half price, as it was a legal purchase.

Alternatively, you could keep it, and let other PCs borrow it each scenario. Probably earn you some friends. ;)

[CRobledo]

And in case you had not seen them yet, there are Runestones of Power which accomplish the same thing for spontaneous casters, such as Summoners.

[Purple Fluffy CatBunnyGnome]

CRobledo wrote:

And in case you had not seen them yet, there are Runestones of Power which accomplish the same thing for spontaneous casters, such as Summoners.

oooooo my sorceress is sooooo going to have to get a few of those .. one can never have too many lighting bolts ...

[Jon Mansmann]

We have a player that has made a similar mistake and I must agree with Jiggy you can either sell it for half price or in my option let a player who can make use of it borrow it dring scenarios. If your like me you play with the same group of people all the time with some new faces now and then, who knows the favor might be returned.

[TetsujinOni]

You can also use it to hand to a prep caster for an endure elements or other long-duration buff, or get them to load a buff that you can use and cast twice out of combat.

I know fighter PCs had small strings of pearls for things like barkskin/shield of faith/endure elements/etc so they could share in the wealth of level 1 buffs that scale during LG.

[CRobledo]

TetsujinOni wrote:

You can also use it to hand to a prep caster for an endure elements or other long-duration buff, or get them to load a buff that you can use and cast twice out of combat.

I know fighter PCs had small strings of pearls for things like barkskin/shield of faith/endure elements/etc so they could share in the wealth of level 1 buffs that scale during LG.

I think you have a misconception on how PoP work (in PF anyway, would not know in LG). A PoP allows a prepared caster to recall a spell they already prepared and cast that day. You can't "pre-load" a PoP with a spell...

SRD wrote:

This seemingly normal pearl of average size and luster is a potent aid to all spellcasters who prepare spells (clerics, druids, rangers, paladins, and wizards). Once per day on command, a pearl of power enables the possessor to recall any one spell that she had prepared and then cast that day.

My Paladin has a Cracked version of this Ioun Stone to have a fellow wizard pre-load enlarge person on him

[TetsujinOni]

Nah, Carlos. The spells I'm thinking of are ones where you'd really like to have it every time you get an opportunity to buff before an entry, or if there's a low-threat round in a combat. Handing the POP off is so that, for example, a cleric can get themselves and your pc both from one slot and three standard actions for an out of combat buff.

My experience of the social contract in organized play in the past has been that you can often discuss spell swaps for out of combat buffs for first or second level slots, especially if it's a spell that they would cast on themselves or their animal companion anyway, if you can provide them a resource to recoup their casting it on you.

For example, it can greatly increase the effectiveness of a party with a druid if they can get the party melee tank as well as their AC with barkskin.... And it's a cooperating, living to report kind of melee tank that provides their own POP1 to make it not a choice of either the AC or the PC.

And there's always the "I like being enlarged if you can slot it... I've got a couple pearl 1s for between combats". Enlarge for long enough to clear most dungeons changes the normal combat calculus... dramatically in the party's favor, usually. It just requires some prep and flex and cooperation in play style among the players. Carrying a couple of your own pearls as a non-prep-caster can be part of that discussion.

[CRobledo]

Got it. I've seen the misconception brought up before that PoP work like ring of spell storing. The example someone told me once is "I want to carry a PoP on my Fighter to get the wizard to load it with Enlarge Person for me."

The problem with that was, of course, you still have to force the Wizard to prepare Enlarge Person that day, and he still has to waste a turn casting it on you.

I thought this was an old 3.0 version of the PoP

[TetsujinOni]

CRobledo wrote:

The problem with that was, of course, you still have to force the Wizard to prepare Enlarge Person that day, and he still has to waste a turn casting it on you.

As I mentioned above, it's a matter of asking nice for slots that aren't necessarily over-competed-for at the tiers where a fighter can afford to devote the 1k to a PoP 1. Demanding is bad, discussing it is good as it can help that "make combat faster by knowing ways we work together" conversation be more meaningful.

[Chris Mortika]

One of the local PFS players has a fighter who carries a wand of enlarge person. During most combats, his action during Round 1 is to offer the wand to a spellcaster who can use it. He's offered it to my summoner in several instances.

That caster has never been in a situation where casting enlarge person was the best use of his first full round in combat.

[TetsujinOni]

Chris, that's why I have been saying to discuss it *before* fights, get it as a before-entry buff in the same timeframe as a shield of faith would be cast, etc.

At worst it's a free-slotted d8+5 of healing in a slot holding murderous command from an enchanter cleric, eh?

[Michael Meunier]

Yeah, this is one of those things like carrying your own CLW wand (or like Chris M points out, I've been that caster on a couple occasions too) even if you can't use it. The utility of a PoP is such that even if you can't use it it's not totally out of sorts to have one or two handy. Heck, I've seen fighters carry one or two...like mine :) (ok, this was in LG and he had a cleric cohort but still :) )

[Haladar Madragon]

Me dumb fighter, buy wands of cure light wounds and magic missile. But hey, as long as magic fingers A and magic fingers D in party, it all good!