Bardic performances with stealthing?!


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Yes, I know, i know- that sounds stupid, if you're singing and dancing, everyone around you get massive bonuses to spot you, done deal right?

Well in the new race guide, the Vishkanya race has a rogue archetype called the 'deadly courtesan'... which is a rogue/bard mix. I don't understand how the character is effective in battle unless she is sneaking, and I don't understand how she's sneaking if she's singing...

deadly courtesan

I'm missing something. I must be.

And of course, I have a player choosing to be a vishhanya deadly courtesan... because Hey! The DM doesn't have enough to worry about!

Scarab Sages

wickedb wrote:

Yes, I know, i know- that sounds stupid, if you're singing and dancing, everyone around you get massive bonuses to spot you, done deal right?

Well in the new race guide, the Vishkanya race has a rogue archetype called the 'deadly courtesan'... which is a rogue/bard mix. I don't understand how the character is effective in battle unless she is sneaking, and I don't understand how she's sneaking if she's singing...

deadly courtesan

I'm missing something. I must be.

And of course, I have a player choosing to be a vishhanya deadly courtesan... because Hey! The DM doesn't have enough to worry about!

You might lay out that Stealthing only works with performaces that don't contain an audible component (like dance) and that the bonus is actually a result of coordinated dance technique where they are literally dancing past objects and flowing from shadow to shadow in such a way that they're nearly invisible to anyone who happened to look.

If that doesn't work for you, I'm going to go with "magic".


I think the confusion appears to be the fixation that rogues have to stealth. In fact that Archetype really has no special bonuses to stealth at all. Its based calmly a charisma focused archetype with bonuses to help others.

Liberty's Edge

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Obviously she is a mime :-)

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