Weapon / Armor Plusses and CMB / CMD


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I was under the impression that if you used your weapon to do a combat maneuver that you got to add your magic weapon's plus to your CMB (if I'm mistaken feel free to correct me, but I was pretty sure on this point). So does that mean you get to add your armor's plus to your CMD?


chaoseffect wrote:
I was under the impression that if you used your weapon to do a combat maneuver that you got to add your magic weapon's plus to your CMB (if I'm mistaken feel free to correct me, but I was pretty sure on this point). So does that mean you get to add your armor's plus to your CMD?
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CMB = Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + special size modifier

No mention of weapon bonuses.

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CMD = 10 + Base attack bonus + Strength modifier + Dexterity modifier + special size modifier + miscellaneous modifiers

Miscellaneous Modifiers

A creature can also add any circumstance, deflection, dodge, insight, luck, morale, profane, and sacred bonuses to AC to its CMD. Any penalties to a creature's AC also apply to its CMD. A flat-footed creature does not add its Dexterity bonus to its CMD.

Armor isn't involved in CMD at all, so its enhancement bonus wouldn't be either. (Although armor that granted a Sacred or Profane bonus would count toward CMD).


Sorry Canthin but you are not 100% right.

"When you attempt to perform a combat maneuver, make an attack roll and add your CMB in place of your normal attack bonus. Add any bonuses you currently have on attack rolls due to spells, feats, and other effects. These bonuses must be applicable to the weapon or attack used to perform the maneuver. The DC of this maneuver is your target's Combat Maneuver Defense. Combat maneuvers are attack rolls, so you must roll for concealment and take any other penalties that would normally apply to an attack roll."

"other effects" would include the enhancement bonus of your weapon if you use your weapon to perform the combat maneuvre.

Armor enhancement bonus do not influence you CMD in any way.

http://paizo.com/pathfinderRPG/prd/combat.html under CMB


Looking around, I also found this errata which specifies that you can add weapon plusses to certain CM checks (and also use dex with weapon finesse without agile maneuvers on those same checks).

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