APG Pregens still on the todo list?

[Matthew Pemrich]

A while back I read that rebuilding the Advanced Player's Guide pregens was on the todo list and they were probably going to be ready at or just before GenCon. Is this still true?

[Mark Moreland]

Advanced Player's Guide pregens are on hold, but it turns out we're finishing up a book full of pregens of all 11 Core Rulebook pregens in the next few weeks. Adapting these to Pathfinder Society legality and getting them up as free PDFs won't take a ton of time once that's done, but there are a lot of other tasks on everyone's plate. It likely won't be before Gen Con, but there will still be 7 different pregens at 3 different levels each for use at the con, so anyone coming new to the game or playing an adventure they don't have a PC for will still have many options to choose from.

[Christopher Woldridge]

These two avatars should not be in the same thread. It must be like talking to yourself.

[Mark Moreland]

wouldn't be the first time

[Qstor]

@Mike/Mark are the new Core rule book pre-gens going to be on the website around GenCon? Just wondering..

thanks

Mike

[CRobledo]

Qstor wrote:

@Mike/Mark are the new Core rule book pre-gens going to be on the website around GenCon? Just wondering..

thanks

Mike

NPC codex is slated for an October release, so my guess would be no.

[Mark Moreland]

Since today's the last work day before Mike and I leave for Gen Con, no. We'll have the same 7 pregenerated characters we had at Gen Con last year. Once we've shipped the NPC Codex to the printer and get recovered from the Gen Con rush, we'll release more pregens as time permits.

[Nebten]

My vote is that this should be one of the last things on their lists. Pre-gens are supposed to be one shot characters. What is the difference between having 7 or 20 if you are only going to use them once. Sure the DM's are overly familar with them, but not the people who play them.

I would much rather have time devoted to updating season 0 scenarios and producing good new matterial.

[kinevon]

Nebten wrote:

My vote is that this should be one of the last things on their lists. Pre-gens are supposed to be one shot characters. What is the difference between having 7 or 20 if you are only going to use them once. Sure the DM's are overly familar with them, but not the people who play them.

I would much rather have time devoted to updating season 0 scenarios and producing good new matterial.

I agree that new pregens shouldn't be near the top of the list, but they do serve a useful purpose for many players, which is getting their feet wet with a class or build they may not normally think of playing, but want to try.

Yes, after August 16th, they could build such a PC as a one-shot, and rebuild it if they decide they don't like it, but that would only be for what the class/build feels like at 1st level, while the pregens would allow trying the class out at higher levels.

[TetsujinOni]

Nebten, you're missing the other point of pregens: providing a way to seat players who would be ineligible due to their PC not being high enough. It's fairly important for organizers to have the option.

It's also fairly detrimental to the players on such tables with "real characters" - they have skin in the game the players of the pregens don't.

[Wraithcannon]

There are 6 PFS APG pregens in the back of the Master of the Fallen Fortress Module.

Alchemist, Cavalier, Inquisitor, Oracle, Summoner, and Witch

[Dan Luckett]

Wraithcannon wrote:

There are 6 PFS APG pregens in the back of the Master of the Fallen Fortress Module.

Alchemist, Cavalier, Inquisitor, Oracle, Summoner, and Witch

None of which are PFS legal. Similar to how the latest Free RPG day module pregens are not legal either.