Plane Shift Focus in PFS

[bdk86]

I was taking some time to start creating a high level bag of tricks (AKA Scroll Library) for my Summoner, and realized it might be handy to have a a scroll of Planar Adaptation and of Plane Shift on hand. Just in case a Prismatic spell goes horribly awry. That, and the frequency with which I'm seeing adventures involve travel to demi-planes, the shadow plane, etc.

Which lead me to notice that the focus for Plane Shift (A metal tuning fork attuned to the destination plane) has no details in core as to its acquisition or creation.

So just how, if at all, would one go about purchasing this focus in PFS play? I can certainly understand that some forks may be an issue of Chronicle access, but I'd hope it wouldn't be difficult to acquire one attuned to the Material Plane.

[Dragnmoon]

bdk86 wrote:

So just how, if at all, would one go about purchasing this focus in PFS play? I can certainly understand that some forks may be an issue of Chronicle access, but I'd hope it wouldn't be difficult to acquire one attuned to the Material Plane.

So, if there is no price for the Focus, which for this one there is not, you just have them in PFS.

What would be a cool thing though is you can write up a Story reason in your character how maybe you got the different Attuned Forks.

[Mike Lindner]

Personally, I would take a fork from a banquet at one of Dralneen's parties.

Next faction mission: replace stolen forks.

[kinevon]

Huh. In LG, a Plane Shift focus cost 50 gp,and was not open acces.

Given that the focus does not include a price, it must be fairly cheap, and might fall under the 1 gp rule.

Does that mean a Sorcerer can Plane Shift without any focus, since he has Eschew Materials?

[Brian Lefebvre]

Focus components are not material components so they're not covered by Eschew Materials. On page 213 of the CRB under components it says that focus that have no price listed are part of a spell component pouch.

[TetsujinOni]

Kinevon: in LG, a Planar Fork (prime material) was open access, 50gp, all others required campaign documentation.

[Aarran]

Brian Lefebvre wrote:

Focus components are not material components so they're not covered by Eschew Materials. On page 213 of the CRB under components it says that focus that have no price listed are part of a spell component pouch.

Wouldn't that make the feat completely useless? Many spells need a foci including Read Magic. I don't think a player should have to have a useless feat just because of the poor wording in the books.

[Brian Lefebvre]

Aarran wrote:

Wouldn't that make the feat completely useless? Many spells need a foci including Read Magic. I don't think a player should have to have a useless feat just because of the poor wording in the books.

The component section of the magic chapter on page 212 of the CRB distinctly separates the two as being different categories of components. Much like vocal and somatic are two distinct types of spell components, and feats that affect one usually don't affect the other. The description of the spell component pouch also mentions it carries both material components and focuses required for spell casting that do not have a gp value listed.

The eschew material feat on the other hand only says that it removes the need for material components, with no errata expanding it to include focuses.

[Aarran]

Brian Lefebvre wrote:

The component section of the magic chapter on page 212 of the CRB distinctly separates the two as being different categories of components. Much like vocal and somatic are two distinct types of spell components, and feats that affect one usually don't affect the other. The description of the spell component pouch also mentions it carries both material components and focuses required for spell casting that do not have a gp value listed.

The eschew material feat on the other hand only says that it removes the need for material components, with no errata expanding it to include focuses.

That doesn't make having the feat any less nonsensical. I believe it to be an inherent flaw in how the feat was written that was simply copy/pasted from 3.5 like they did with some other things. The lack of a costly component for Spell Turning being a good example. I think it's something that needs fixed and wasn't fixed and if not then it is a complete waste of a feat.

By the way, I'm not in disagreement with you in the way the rules are written. I just think the rules are flawed.