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Okay, for whatever reason I don't know much about this thing. I've seen it used before in earlier editions, but not very often.
So let me get to my questions.
The spell says:
"This spell makes the duration of certain other spells permanent. You first cast the desired spell and then follow it with the permanency spell.
Depending on the spell, you must be of a minimum caster level and must expend a specific gp value of diamond dust as a material component.
You can make the following spells permanent in regard to yourself. You cannot cast these spells on other creatures. This application of permanency can be dispelled only by a caster of higher level than you were when you cast the spell."
Then it follows with the list of spells that this applies to: Arcane sight, Comprehend Languages, Darkvision, Detect magic, Read magic, See invisibility, and Tongues.
What exactly does this mean? I have a general idea, but this is confusing wording I think.
I can caste Permanency on myself.
Am I also required to cast the spell I want to make permanent? If so can I use a scroll or something, or do I have to use my very own spell slot?
Can someone else cast the spell on me, and I make that permanent on myself?
Can you use a scroll of Permanency, even if you have to cast the spell totally on your own?
Could a Rogue get a scroll of darvision, and a scroll of permanency and put darkvision on himself?
Say I cast Permanency on myself at 12th level; now if I cast darvision on myself, no problem. I can only have that effect dispelled by a 13th level caster, right? What if I use a scroll to cast darkvision on myself, and the scroll has a lower caster level. Is it the Permanency portion that is the part with the level check?
Then there is this:
"Spells cast on other targets are vulnerable to dispel magic as normal. The GM may allow other spells to be made permanent."
Okay, say I want to make Greater Magic Fang permanent on a monk or something. Do I have to cast the Greater Magic Fang? Can it come from someone else?
From the wording it seems like if I make GMF permanent on someone else, the effect can dispelled normally. Meaning that it might take a 13th level caster to dispel the effect on myself, but a caster of lower than 12th level would have a chance to dispel it on the monk.
If anyone can shed some light on this spell, I'd appreciate it.
LazarX
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The basic assumption is that you yourself are casting the spell you want permament and it is a separate casting.
Spells that are marked as permanent self only HAVE to be cast by you.
I might allow spells castable by others to be done by other casters, but those casters would have to meat the caster level just as you would.
And yes it means just as it says. if the permanent spell is one cast on someone else it's vulnerable to being removed by dispel magic.