A query about Polymorph based spells

[Jason Beardsley]

I don't know why I only noticed now, but there's no polymorph spells that allow you to turn into a vermin. I'm interested in making an npc that has levels in a PrC from a non-golarion 3.5 source involving a druid gaining abilities to wildshape into a vermin.
Are there any PRPG sources, including 3pp, that have a set of Vermin Shape, polymorph based, spells?

[Paul Watson]

Jason Beardsley wrote:

I don't know why I only noticed now, but there's no polymorph spells that allow you to turn into a vermin. I'm interested in making an npc that has levels in a PrC from a non-golarion 3.5 source involving a druid gaining abilities to wildshape into a vermin.

Are there any PRPG sources, including 3pp, that have a set of Vermin Shape, polymorph based, spells?

In the APG there's a Desert Druid that allows you to Wild Shape into vermin. It says to treat them as animals using Beast Shape IV. In the desert Druid variant, you replace the three Plant Shapes with Small/Medium vermin, Tiny/Large vermin and Diminutive/Huge vermin for Plant

If anything I'd just create spells that are Beast shape II, III and IV in terms of what abilities are allowed for the vermin and treat them as Beast Shape I, II and III for the sizes.

Quick and Dirty versions

Spoiler:

Vermin Shape I
As Beast Shape II except you can transform into Small or Medium vermin
Small: +2 Dex, +1 NAtural Armour
Medium: +2 Strength, +2 Natural Armour

Vermin Shape II
As Beast Shape III, except you can transform into Tiny or Large vermin
Tiny: +4 Dex, -2 Strength, +1 Natural Armour
Large:+4 Strength, -2 Dexterity, +4 Natural Armour

Vermin Shape III
As Beast Shape IV except you can turn into Diminutive or Huge Vermin
Diminutive: +6 Dexterity, -4 Strength, +1 Natural Armour
Huge: +6 Strength, -4 Dexterity, +6 Natural Armour

[Jason Beardsley]

Interesting idea.

Edit: you clarified my question before I finished my reply lol

[Paul Watson]

Jason Beardsley wrote:

Interesting idea. So, the resulting Vermin Shape I spell would basically be Beast Shape II with Beast Shape I sizes? Would they VSI be the same spell level as BSI or II in that case?

I'd treat them as the same level as BSII, III and IV. But this is just a quick and dirty approach, I'd take, not anything official.

[Jason Beardsley]

Thanks for the ideas! I'll also have to get my hands on the APG at some point lol.