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alright, first off, the feat false focus from Razmiran Priest sorcerer archetype, says that you may have your holy symbol stand in for any material component you use up to the cost of the holy symbol (max 100g). This would mean, that I could use the false focus to 'count as' alchemical power components used as material components (but not the ones used as a focus). They are just material components, and the false focus says 'any material components up to X gold'. Just double checking that it works, I see no reason it should not.
second, the kobold bloodline states that anyone taking a save against any of my spells that is flat-footed or denied their dex bonus to AC, increases the DC by 2. The spell grease, if you walk across it, you must make an acrobatics check. If you fail by 5 or more, your automatically fall down. If you fail by 1 to 4, you must make a reflex save. If you are balancing, you lose your dex to ac. this would automatically increase the DC of the grease spell by +2, would it not? Since the acrobatics check happens BEFORE the reflex save.
As far as the Alchemical bit i dont think that works, Or at least it probly wasnt intended that you can boost every spell you have witht he alchemical stuff. Thats probly a Dm judgement call though.
in regards to the Second Theres Really Two issues. The first is a good rule of thumb is to Assume spells do /exactly/ what they say they do nothing more nothing less.
Since grease itself doesnt anywhere imply you become flat footed.
however alot of people appear to use the uneven surface narrow ledge rules under acrobatics.
Anyhow reading over Grease It doesnt work. The Reflex save happens when you first cast the spell. If they are flat footed at that time you would get the +2 to the save.
The problem is what you want to do is connected to an Acrobatics check which happens as people try to move through the greased area. IT doesnt use reflex saves at all other than the initial casting.
basically casting grease doesnt make a person flat footed in any way shape or form They get a reflex save to avoid falling over. AFTER it is cast if you use a rule that isnt wholly clear applies to grease They would become flat footed while attempting the Acrobatics check. But to target them youd basically need a readied action when they cross the grease.
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actually grease says this...
"A grease spell covers a solid surface with a layer of slippery grease. Any creature in the area when the spell is cast must make a successful Reflex save or fall. A creature can walk within or through the area of grease at half normal speed with a DC 10 Acrobatics check. Failure means it can't move that round (and must then make a Reflex save or fall), while failure by 5 or more means it falls (see the Acrobatics skill for details). Creatures that do not move on their turn do not need to make this check and are not considered flat-footed."
As you can see, it not only says if you fail the acrobatics check, you must make a reflex save, it also HEAVILY implies in the last part that if you make an acrobatics check you are flat-footed, as per the acrobatics rules speaking of uneven ground.
also, it clearly states that the false focus is worth up to the GP of the symbol (max 100) as a stand-in for material components. It can stand in for 100gp of diamond dust, or onyx in the mouth of a dead body for animate dead. so why not an alchemical power component. RAW is what i'm asking about. RAW it seems to work. I'm not asking what you think the intent was. The fact that it's an alchemical power component shouldn't matter from what i'm reading... it says exactly...
"By using a divine focus as part of casting, you can cast any spell with a material component costing the value of the divine focus (maximum 100 gp) or less without needing that component."
Now, as long as the combination of the alchemical power components and the normal components of the spell dont exceed 100 gp, they should be covered.
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An alchemical power component is an alchemical item used as a material component or focus for a spell in order to alter or augment the spell’s normal effects. What follows is a sample of these effects; your GM may allow other combinations. Spells followed by an (M) expend the alchemical item as a material component; those followed by an (F) use the item as a focus and do not expend it. In both cases, the alchemical item does not have its normal effect and does not affect any other parameters of the spell. You cannot use the same item as both a focus and a material component at the same time.
The false focus feat was developed a couple of years after the alchemical power components, so the bolded part wasn't specifically aimed at it, but I feel it should apply.
You are trying to use the false focus both as a focus in substitution of the normal material components of the spell and as a power component for the spell, something that this rule don't allow.I would use the strictest reading of the text of the False focus feat: "By using a divine focus as part of casting, you can cast any spell with a material component costing the value of that divine focus (maximum 100 gp) or less without needing that component."
The alchemical power components are alchemical power component, not components, so the feat should not work.
TANSTAAFL, you want a boost in power, you pay for it.
Actually missed the part where Failig the acrobatics check caused the reflex save (always assumed for some reason that you just fell and i did look at it earlier) anyhow the Spell itself does not imply anywhere ever that your flat footed. Theres nothing wrong with using it in your game i was just saying ITs unclear if its intended.
Anyhow if you are using that rule then yes the reflex save to avoid falling would be at +2 because you would be flat footed at ta\hat moment.
And as Diego rossi said Alchemical power components ar enot material components. They are an extra thing thats not part of the origonal spell.
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alright, we'll work it that way. but it does heavily heavily imply in grease that you're flat-footed. "Creatures that do not move on their turn do not need to make this check and are not considered flat-footed." doesnt come out and say it, but it implies it. But you're right, it is open to interpretation.
That could be the intent I'm sure a lot of people play it that way. Really I was just trying to emphasise that spells tend to be more explicit. Many spells explain the minor such systems they use rather than referencing the obscure rule directly.
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The false focus feat was developed a couple of years after the alchemical power components, so the bolded part wasn't specifically aimed at it, but I feel it should apply.
You are trying to use the false focus both as a focus in substitution of the normal material components of the spell and as a power component for the spell, something that this rule don't allow.I would use the strictest reading of the text of the False focus feat: "By using a divine focus as part of casting, you can cast any spell with a material component costing the value of that divine focus (maximum 100 gp) or less without needing that component."
The alchemical power components are alchemical power component, not components, so the feat should not work.
TANSTAAFL, you want a boost in power, you pay for it.
Actually I just looked it up in the adventurer's armory. And it says (emphasis mine):
"An alchemical power component is and alchemical item used as a material component or focus for a spell.... Spells followed by an (M) expend the alchemical item as a material component; those followed by an (F) use the item as a focus and do not expend it."
As you can see, it defines alchemical power components as simply material components that are made up of alchemical items. it says nothing about them being any different from any other material components. Therefore, the false focus feat should work just fine for the ones that have an (M) next to them. For the ones that are a focus, I'd have to actually have the alchemical item.