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Adoptive Parentage question. Don't move the thread, por favor, as the primary question is PFS specific. Thanks much!
Adoptive Parentage: Humans are sometimes orphaned and adopted by other races. Choose one humanoid race without the human subtype. You start play with that race's languages and gain that race's weapon familiarity trait (if any). If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead. This racial trait replaces the bonus feat trait.
Question 1) For PFS, can you choose any humanoid race? Even ones not permitted for PFS play?
Question 2) Not so much PFS specific, but still a question I have. "If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead." What is considered as "appropriate for that race," who determines this?
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The questions you address are the purview of the GM; in this case Mike Brock. As you cannot expect him to make a ruling for every race a player may want to apply this feat to, you should stick with the PFS player legal races. In any other campaign this trait would be subject to GM discretion.
As for question 2: you can safely assume any weapon or skill listed for the monster entry of the race to be appropiate for skill focus or weapon focus with this trait.
Eg. Should you chose to be adopted by serpentfolk and should your GM allow this you should be eligible to take Weapon Focus dagger or Skill Focus (acrobatics, disguise, escape artist, etc). Again this is up to your GM.
However, for PFS you should not expect anything but PFS legal races (from the CRB) to be available for use with this trait.
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On number 1, I would probably say no to any humanoid race, because some of them may not be appropriate to the environment. But that is personal opinion, not anything more.
On number 2, I would say that it should, in general, be a fairly obvious call. If you get adopted by race X, and their NPCs in the appropriate Bestiary usually use weapon Y, that would be the weapon you would get Weapon Focus with.
Kobolds, as an example, would probably offer a choice of spear or sling. Troglodytes, on the other hand, would probably offer the choice of club, claw or bite.
At least, that would, IMO, be the fairest way to adjudicate it, base it off the weapons used by the race entry in the Bestiary.
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However, for PFS you should not expect anything but PFS legal races (from the CRB) to be available for use with this trait.
While I agree with that, I think I'm safe in saying that, given what we often see happening on these forums, is that without a post from "the hand of God," (Senor Brock), people are going to do whatever the heck the want.
I'm not going to play an adopted human, probably ever, I just wanted to bring the likely question to the boards sooner, rather than later, after we had some adopted PFS characters.
Given the variation inherent in my second question, I wonder if this racial option was supposed to get the ax for PFS but made it through by mistake...
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For your second question, would it also include weapons with X in the name? Like if your adopted heritage was "Dwarf" you could use anything weapon with "Dwarven" in the name? Or did I misunderstand your question?
The second question is essentially, who determines "what is an appropriate weapon focus or skill focus feat for a race?" Since that is what the adopted trait grants if the selected race doesn't have weapon proficiency.
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Question 1) For PFS, can you choose any humanoid race? Even ones not permitted for PFS play?
No. Additional Resources advise which races are legal for play and which are not. If a race is advised as not legal for play, such as drow or duegar, you may not choose them as the selected humanoid race. That is the reason I advised in the ARG write-up for Additional Resources that nothing in those sections are PFS legal.
Question 2) Not so much PFS specific, but still a question I have. "If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead." What is considered as "appropriate for that race," who determines this?
This is a general PF rule and should be asked on the rules forums.
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This is a general PF rule and should be asked on the rules forums.
Question 2) Not so much PFS specific, but still a question I have. "If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead." What is considered as "appropriate for that race," who determines this?
Well looking over the core races it seems the only race not to have weapon familiarity is the half elves(unless you count humans, but that doesn't make sense), Since none of the half-elf traits deal with weapons in any way does that mean that the human has to get skill focus (perception) as perception is the only skill half elves have a bonus to?
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Well looking over the core races it seems the only race not to have weapon familiarity is the half elves(unless you count humans, but that doesn't make sense), Since none of the half-elf traits deal with weapons in any way does that mean that the human has to get skill focus (perception) as perception is the only skill half elves have a bonus to?This is a general PF rule and should be asked on the rules forums.
Question 2) Not so much PFS specific, but still a question I have. "If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead." What is considered as "appropriate for that race," who determines this?
On that one, since Half-Elves get the ability to take Skill Focus (anything) as a normal Racial ability, that is probably what I, at least, would tend to think was appropriate for an adopted human, as well.
Languages: Dwarves begin play speaking Common and Dwarven.
rapiers, and shortbows (including composite shortbows), and treat any weapon with the word "elven" in its name as a martial weapon.
Languages: Elves begin play speaking Common and Elven.
Languages: Gnomes begin play speaking Common, Gnome, and Sylvan.
Languages: Half-elves begin play speaking Common and Elven.
Languages: Half-orcs begin play speaking Common and Orc.
Languages: Halflings begin play speaking Common and Halfling.
Humans are not a legal race to be adopted by, per the feat.
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Question 1) For PFS, can you choose any humanoid race? Even ones not permitted for PFS play?
No. Additional Resources advise which races are legal for play and which are not. If a race is advised as not legal for play, such as drow or duegar, you may not choose them as the selected humanoid race. That is the reason I advised in the ARG write-up for Additional Resources that nothing in those sections are PFS legal.
This is a general PF rule and should be asked on the rules forums.
Question 2) Not so much PFS specific, but still a question I have. "If the races does not have weapon familiarity, you gain either Skill Focus or Weapon Focus as a bonus feat that is appropriate for that race instead." What is considered as "appropriate for that race," who determines this?
Good to know, thank you!