So I've got a couple of questions. I tried to search, but no luck.
Before I start let me first apologize for opening that can of worms that is monk discussion. And let me also say that I'm pretty sure none of this is RAW per se, but I'm curious about folks opinions.
Still with me? Cool
#1. Lets say we have a monk with greater trip and boar shred.
When he trips he gets an AOO. When he hits twice in the same round he adds bleed damage.
If he trips someone (a hit) and then succeeds on his AOO (a hit) does that trigger the bleed damage from boar style?
My inclination is no, but the idea of a monk spring attacking and causing his target to bleed out is very cool.
#2. Can a monk use the stunning fist feat on a combat maneuver performed with his unarmed strike? Aka trip and stun the target.
#1 Yes the round last until the Init resets so even if those 2 hits aren't on the monks turn he still causes the bleed.
#2
You know just where to strike to temporarily stun a foe.
Prerequisites: Dex 13, Wis 13, Improved Unarmed Strike, base attack bonus +8.
Benefit: You must declare that you are using this feat before you make your attack roll (thus, a failed attack roll ruins the attempt). Stunning Fist forces a foe damaged by your unarmed attack to make a Fortitude saving throw (DC 10 + 1/2 your character level + your Wis modifier), in addition to dealing damage normally. A defender who fails this saving throw is stunned for 1 round (until just before your next turn). A stunned character drops everything held, can't take actions, loses any Dexterity bonus to AC, and takes a –2 penalty to AC. You may attempt a stunning attack once per day for every four levels you have attained (but see Special), and no more than once per round. Constructs, oozes, plants, undead, incorporeal creatures, and creatures immune to critical hits cannot be stunned.
Special: A monk receives Stunning Fist as a bonus feat at 1st level, even if he does not meet the prerequisites. A monk may attempt a stunning attack a number of times per day equal to his monk level, plus one more time per day for every four levels he has in classes other than monk.
Then bolded part points out that damage needs to be done so no.
Thanks for the quick reply.
Also thanks for the rule quote on #2 that clarifies the stun question completely. I missed the line about needing to do damage.
Let me specify on #1... I think I was unclear.
Possibility 1. Monk trips orc. Due to greater trip the orc provokes for being tripped. Monk succeeds on his attack. Having tripped the orc, and then punched him, the monk applies bleed damage. (This is what I'm asking about)
Possibility 2. (What I think you think I'm talking about)
Monk trips orc, orc provokes, monk punches orc. On orc's turn he gets up, this provokes, monk punches orc. This is the second hit this round so the monk applies bleed damage.
(I know this second situation is RAW. My question is about the more shifty possibility #1)
Sorry No not if he merely trips him. I was seeing attack then trip then AoO from trip.
I thought so. Thanks for the quick answers.
My logic behind it was that technically a combat maneuver is an attack. And boar shred doesnt require you to deal damage. Its shifty logic, I fully admit that.