Greetings!
I have a few questions regarding rend.
I have an eidolon which has claws and then takes rend claw (ex) evolution. Then if he successfully get two claw attacks it adds an extra rend attack right sofar?
Can the eidolon then choose the rend claw feat and thus aquire an extra rend attack? I assume if yes then this would require another available claw attack and two successful hits to trigger this second rend??
Also if I took rending fury and with the assumption that you can have two rend attacks then it would mean that if I hit with one claw then I can trigger the first rend (evolution) and if I hit with the second claw I could trigger the second rend (feat) since rending fury makes the rend at half the normal requirement for the rend (in my case hit with two claws becomes hit with one claw).
If I then apply Improved Rending Fury (which adds 1d6 damage to rends then this would apply to both attacks I assume?
So basically I think the most interesting question is if I can get one rend with the evolution and one rend attack with the feat? Also what happens if I have two limbs and dual wield two weapons and take the Two Weapon rend feat? Would that give me 3 rends? In my opinion the Two Weapon Rend would indeed give an extra rend since it has different conditions ie hit with both a main hand and off hand attack to get the rend, while the eidolons evololution rend claws and the feat rend claws may be exclusive and thus only have effect once which would mean taking one of the rend claws useless since you might only get one rend from the claws anyways.
Really looking forward to your replies!
Sincerely!
/Thrilled
As far as I recall the rending claw feat doesn't actually give you a rend attack, it just adds 1d6 extra to the 2nd claw if the first claws hits. Very similar to rend but technically not a rend.
As far as I recall the rending claw feat doesn't actually give you a rend attack, it just adds 1d6 extra to the 2nd claw if the first claws hits. Very similar to rend but technically not a rend.
Your are so correct... that's the sayings on the Rending Claw (feat). However the rending claw (evolution) says: An Eidolon learns to rip and tear the flesh of those it attacks with it's claws, gaining the rend ability. Whenever the eidolon makes two successful claw attacks against the same target in 1 round, its claws latch into the flesh and deal extra damage. This damage is equal to the damage dealt by one claw attack plus 1-1/2 times the eidolons str modifier. The eidolon must poccess the claws evolution to select this evolution. The summoner most be at least 6th lvl before selecting this evolution.
So it shows these was two totally different things... it also answers one of my questions.. I do get a normal rend which adds one extra d6 on the second claw attack if I hit with both claws in the round. Also if those two claw attacks hits the same target in the same round then it would trigger an rend attack as per the eidolons rending claws evolution. So that makes it perfectly clear. Then if this eidolon would dual wield and the the two weapon rend feat then he would also get that extra rend attack to happen if the conditions are met (one mainhand and one offhand attack hits).
I think that solved all my questions I had! Thanks for the help!
Your assumptions are incorrect.
Rend is never an attack; it is only bonus damage. The evolution says it deals DAMAGE equal to one claw attack; NOWHERE does it say you GAIN an additional attack, and furthermore, you can only rend a target once per claw/claw.
And I may be wrong about this, but I'm not even sure you can rend twice in a round, even if you have 4 claws.