duel class magus casting


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Can one cast a spell from another class, use the spell combate class feature, that's on the magus spell list without having to use the broad study arcana?


If you could, what would be the point of Broad Study? It is still another class's spell.


I'm too lazy to reread everything at the moment, but iirc the wording is such that a spell merely need be "on the magus spell list" to work with spell combat.
Unless it also restricts the actual slot used (which I don't think it does) to one granted from magus caster levels, this should work.

*The intent may very well be that it needs to be a "magus spell(slot)", but considering you'd have a different caster level to keep track of and all the other junk that goes with it, I don't see the problem.


but for other spells not on the spell magus spell list, get the broad study arcana. Well, RAW, I guess I'm good.


Yes, you can.

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As a full-round action, he can make all of his attacks with his melee weapon at a –2 penalty and can also cast any spell from the magus spell list with a casting time of 1 standard action (any attack roll made as part of this spell also takes this penalty).

Contrast with the rule on arcane failure:

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He can cast magus spells while wearing light armor without incurring the normal arcane spell failure chance

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So if you have sorcerer spells which are on the magus list, you can Spell combat or Spellstrike them, but you'd take normal arcane failure chance to do so.


That's what I was thinking in whole. And the spell is true strike, no somatic componet and no level adjustment.


Just remember that you have to have a hand free to use spell combat, even if the spell doesn't have a somatic component. You also provoke as normal (or as normal for a magus, anyway).


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Ultimate Magic (pg. 11) wrote:
Broad Study: The magus selects another one of his spellcasting classes. The magus can use his spellstrike and spell combat abilities while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class.
Ultimate Magic (pg. 12) wrote:
Spell Blending: When the magus selects this arcana, he must select one spell from the wizard spell list that is of a magus spell level he can cast. He adds this spellbook and list of magus spells known as a magus spell of its wizard spell level. He can instead select two spells to add in this way, but both must be at least one level loer than the highest magus spell he can cast.

The difference between these two arcana is as follows:

1) Broad Study allows a magus that has levels in another class to use spellstrike and spell combat when casting any spells in the other class. The multiclassed magus follows all rules regarding multiclassed spell progression (i.e., casts at the CL of the other class, not his magus CL, etc.).

2) Spell Blending allows the magus to add one or two specific wizard spells to his spell book and spell list. The spell(s) are treated as magus spells (spell slots, CL, etc.) when prepared/used.


I have a level in sorcerer. The spell I have is true strike. I was using in with spell combate. I was hoping it was legal. The spell is on the magus list, and it has no somatic componet.


Thing is, you aren't casting it from a the Magus list. I wouldn't let it work without Broad Study.


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You mean I'm not casting it from the magus spells per day. Yes, I was thinking that that may have been RAI, but RAW, does seem to allow for it. AS always tho I'll ask my gm and go off that... Never hurts to cast True strike and move. Tho from what others are telling me at the game store bobson has the general acceptable answer.


Dragonchess Player wrote:
Ultimate Magic (pg. 11) wrote:
Broad Study: The magus selects another one of his spellcasting classes. The magus can use his spellstrike and spell combat abilities while casting or using spells from the spell list of that class.
Ultimate Magic (pg. 12) wrote:
Spell Blending: When the magus selects this arcana, he must select one spell from the wizard spell list that is of a magus spell level he can cast. He adds this spellbook and list of magus spells known as a magus spell of its wizard spell level. He can instead select two spells to add in this way, but both must be at least one level loer than the highest magus spell he can cast.

The difference between these two arcana is as follows:

1) Broad Study allows a magus that has levels in another class to use spellstrike and spell combat when casting any spells in the other class. The multiclassed magus follows all rules regarding multiclassed spell progression (i.e., casts at the CL of the other class, not his magus CL, etc.).

2) Spell Blending allows the magus to add one or two specific wizard spells to his spell book and spell list. The spell(s) are treated as magus spells (spell slots, CL, etc.) when prepared/used.

Ooh, good point. I withdraw my earlier post.

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