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The friendly wizard of our campaign would like to become a Gargantuan dragon through Form of the Dragon III and then use limited Wish to cast Righteous might while in Dragon Form.
Form of the Dragon III is specifically from the polymorph subdomain of the Transmutation school.
Righteous Might on the other hand is just from the transmutation, which is his argument for why the two spells stack.
At the end of Righteous might it has this blurb:
Magical effects that increase size do not stack.
Which is my argument against it. Again his argument is that he polymorphed into the dragon and then wants to increase size through a magical effect. Also, he admits that spells like enlarge person wouldn't stack with righteous might.
Please help clear up this confusion.
Thanks,
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They do not stack. The polymorph effect has increased his size. This is noted by the stat increases. They are both magical effects and don't stack. This would be the same as casting enlarge person on his after he polymorphed, which would have no effect. The blurb in the spell description is crystal clear. It doesn't say magical effects from the same school. Shut that cheese factory down!
As far as I know, he can still benefit from both effects, they just don't stack.
He would get a +10 size bonus to strength and a +8 size bonus to Constitution, rather than +14 and +12, respectively (since they don't stack). Since he increased two sizes already with form of the dragon III, righteous might does not increase his size any further. The natural armor bonuses DO stack, however, since they are of different bonus types.
All the other abilities (and penalties) granted by the spells don't seem to overlap and, at a glance, look like they would work together just fine. In short, he would get all of the benefits (and drawbacks) of forms of the dragon III, plus the DR and natural armor bonuses of righteous might.
EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong.
From Polymorph subschool
"...other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell."
No effect seems to mean, no effect at all.
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EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong.
From Polymorph subschool
"...other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell."No effect seems to mean, no effect at all.
This is another thing that I'm confused on. I understand that two polymorph effects don't stack. However, if you look at Righteous Might it's from the Transmutation school, but it's not a polymorph subschool.
"...spells that change your size..." is pretty comprehensive as it doesn't use the school as a qualifier.
This is another thing that I'm confused on. I understand that two polymorph effects don't stack. However, if you look at Righteous Might it's from the Transmutation school, but it's not a polymorph subschool.EDIT: Nope, I'm wrong.
From Polymorph subschool
"...other spells that change your size have no effect on you while you are under the effects of a polymorph spell."No effect seems to mean, no effect at all.
honestly I think it should be, but as it is only spells that change form rather than just making it bigger or smaller are polymorph effects apparently. I do not see a proper reason to not make it such.
This is another thing that I'm confused on. I understand that two polymorph effects don't stack. However, if you look at Righteous Might it's from the Transmutation school, but it's not a polymorph subschool.
To explain it another way: polymorph effect makes the character immune to size changing effects.