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Hey all
I am playing at tattooed sorcerer atm, lvl 6, and are soon to hit lvl7.
So some questions concerning the 7th lvl su "Create Spell Tattoo".
1) Does it basically work as a free spell of your highest lvl once per day?
For 7th lvl -> I would pick Summon Monster III (or fireball for fun)
2) Do my feats apply to this? (Augmented Summoning, Spell Focus:Evocation for the fireball - for the bump to DC)
3) Is it cast at my sorcerer CL? (e.g. +1 CL due to Varisian Tattoo)
4) Does my bloodline affect it? (e.g. Draconic - Electricity, +1 per die for Lightning Bolt)
5) Can I use meta-magic such as Intensified Spell on the scroll?
6) Does creating use a spell slot (as in I "cast" it on the scroll)
Sorry if this should be self explanatory by reading the feat description.
The Create Spell Tattoo ability of a Tattooed Sorceror lets you create a spell tattoo, which basically works just like a scroll. This means that all the rules that applies to scrolls also applies to spell tattoos.
A related question:
The ability states that the spell must be without material or focus components.
Is that supposed to be costly components? Otherwise the use of the ability is rather limited.
Okay, so if it basically works like a scroll, do I have to pay each
time I use it?
Since I am a bit unsure on how exactly the edge cases of scroll usage works out I am going to answer my questions like I think they work out.
If I am wrong on a answer, please correct me!
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2) Do my feats apply to this? (Augmented Summoning, Spell Focus:Evocation for the fireball - for the bump to DC)
Yes - Tbh, really unsure about this one...
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3) Is it cast at my sorcerer CL? (e.g. +1 CL due to Varisian Tattoo)
Yes - If I specifically desired it.
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4) Does my bloodline affect it? (e.g. Draconic - Electricity, +1 per die for Lightning Bolt)
Yes - bloodline arcana affects all scrolls and wands as well.
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5) Can I use meta-magic such as Intensified Spell on the scroll?
Yes -> As long as I could have cast the "final spell" with one of my
own spell slots.
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6) Does creating use a spell slot (as in I "cast" it on the scroll)
No
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After looking at it, this thread should probably been in the #rules
section, not advice. Any moderator care to move it?
HaraldKlak wrote: A related question:
The ability states that the spell must be without material or focus components.
Is that supposed to be costly components? Otherwise the use of the ability is rather limited.
I've included the exact wording of the ability above. Since it says that "[spell] that has no material or focus component" I think it's pretty clear that the spell can't have ANY component of focus, costly or otherwise.
ooki wrote: Okay, so if it basically works like a scroll, do I have to pay each time I use it? Yes, that's my interpretation.
evilash wrote: HaraldKlak wrote: A related question:
The ability states that the spell must be without material or focus components.
Is that supposed to be costly components? Otherwise the use of the ability is rather limited.
** spoiler omitted **
I've included the exact wording of the ability above. Since it says that "[spell] that has no material or focus component" I think it's pretty clear that the spell can't have ANY component of focus, costly or otherwise.
ooki wrote: Okay, so if it basically works like a scroll, do I have to pay each time I use it? Yes, that's my interpretation. So when you say pay do you mean the component cost of the spell, (as in the stuff you carry in your spell pouch) or do you mean the scroll cost? (Like 100g for a 2nd lvl spell)
If it is the scroll cost then this basically is a sucky version of creating scrolls... I already have a wizard in the group making scrolls.(Got tons on them on me already)
On a sidenote:
Does feats affect this (scrolls)? Like if I cast a fireball from
a scroll and have Spell Focus(Evocation) -> do I get +1 DC to the spell?
Same goes for Augmented Summoning -> Do my creatures get extra str&con?
EDIT: Yes (finally found a answer)
http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/pathfinder/pathfinderR PG/rules/archives/questionsAboutCreatingScrollsAndOtherItemsAlongWithCertai nFeats&page=1#5
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Sorcerers have Eschew Materials, meaning I would interpret they could create a tattoo of any spell they eschew the materials for. You'd just have to ensure then it didn't have a focus component.
Also, because it gives you a number of uses per day, I don't think this specific ability (not counting Inscribe Magical Tattoo) would have a gp cost like you do scribing scrolls. That is just my judgement though. You only get it 3/day at 15th level so its not a gamebreaker.
CaroRose wrote: Sorcerers have Eschew Materials, meaning I would interpret they could create a tattoo of any spell they eschew the materials for. You'd just have to ensure then it didn't have a focus component.
Also, because it gives you a number of uses per day, I don't think this specific ability (not counting Inscribe Magical Tattoo) would have a gp cost like you do scribing scrolls. That is just my judgement though. You only get it 3/day at 15th level so its not a gamebreaker.
Problem is: Tattooed Sorcerer archtype do not give you Eschew Materials as a free feat.
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Then you may want to take it as a normal feat for sure!
Ok, reading the actual description of spell tattoo in Inner Sea Magic, page 16, it says it has a market price of 4x that of a scroll. So if you do want to include the price in the ability, you're looking at more than a normal scroll and not very useful if you already have a scroll monkey.
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