You can't wield weapons in the vestigial arm.
You can't wield weapons in the vestigial arm.
Pretty sure you can.
The arm does not give the alchemist any extra attacks or actions per round, though the arm can wield a weapon and make attacks as part of the alchemist’s attack routine (using two-weapon fighting).
You can wield two medium greatswords.
It's not really a question of Jotungrip, it's whether you can use your extra arm to wield a 2-handed weapon while TWF.
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You can wield two medium greatswords.It's not really a question of Jotungrip, it's whether you can use your extra arm to wield a 2-handed weapon while TWF.
Yes, the vestigial arm functions like a regular arm. With jotungrip, you could wield two medium greatswords, and a shield(including a tower shield).
I am not wanting to use jotungrip. I am using Massive Weapon gained at 3rd level of titan mauler to wield a large sized great sword (holding it with my two main hands) and then wielding a large sized short sword with my vestigial arm.
The question comes in whether or not I can consider the large short sword as a light weapon for off-hand purposes due to the massive weapons training from titan mauler.
With the two weapon fighting feat, I should receive a -2/-2 for both hands. Also, with 3 levels of titan mauler, I only take a -1 for large sized weapons.
This makes for a -3/-3 to full round attacks.
The Large Short Sword is a 1-hand weapon. Nothing in the RAW for Massive Weapons changes the size category progression (which is why you're stuck with a Large Bastard Sword as the biggest weapon you can wield with two hands).
Okay, so I need a large two handed weapon for main weapon, and a basic short short sword (or similar) for off hand weapon.
Right. If Titan Mauler reduced penalties for all mis-sized weapons (and not just larger weapons), you'd really want to take EWP: Bastard Sword and use a Large Bastard Sword 2H and a Tiny Bastard Sword Off-hand. Same damage as a Large Short Sword, but you'd be able to double up on Weapon Focus, etc.
ETA:
Yes, RAW the largest weapon you can use with two hands, Titan Mauler or no, is a Large Bastard Sword. People argue over whether you need the EWP to do so (the proficiency allows you to use the Bastard Sword 1-handed, so when it goes large it bumps up to 2-hand). All Titan Mauler does is reduce the penalties.
OTOH, with Jotungrip you could use a Large Bastard Sword in your two hands and a Greatsword in the off-hand with a -2 penalty, but you'll also be taking the 1-hand off-hand penalty for TWF.
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Right, and that would apply to the Greatsword (an appropriately sized 2H weapon being used 1-handed) but not to the Large Bastard Sword (a Large 1-handed weapon being used 2-handed, with penalty reductions from Massive Weapons).
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For the record, you don't get extra attacks with the vestigial arm.
It specifically says so in the text of that discovery.
He's not getting an extra attack, he's substituting the vestitial arm for attacks that he would already have, which is completely fine.
Just to make people not b#*&~ about it, redward, I would suggest that you say it as such: "I'm using my main hand and the vestigial arm to wield the Large Bastard Sword two-handed, then using my off-hand to wield a short sword." This interpretation would be completely legal RAW.
For the record, you don't get extra attacks with the vestigial arm.
It specifically says so in the text of that discovery.
He's not getting an extra attack, he's substituting the vestitial arm for attacks that he would already have, which is completely fine.
Just to make people not b&@$@ about it, redward, I would suggest that you say it as such: "I'm using my main hand and the vestigial arm to wield the Large Bastard Sword two-handed, then using my off-hand to wield a short sword." This interpretation would be completely legal RAW.
Thanks, but I'm not the OP; just an interested observer. I've got my own Titan Mauler issues (shameless thread pimping).