Wondering how a few feats interact

[Thomas Long 175]

So I was looking at a MOMS today and first thing I did was of course look at my favorite style list the dragon style. Pretty good damage boosters I thought.

But then I decide to add in another style cause, hey, he's the master of many styles, gotta have more than 1. The next one I look at is Tiger style. So I'm looking at at a combination of Dragon Style, Dragon Ferocity, Tiger Style, Tiger Claws, and power attack and I'm wondering how does that work?

I tried looking at older posts but they seemed even more confusing. From what I understand its

1 roll to hit
Since it's 1 attack I get the 2x strength bonus on both unarmed strike damages.

So if I have a modifier of 4 and an unarmed strike for d8 does that mean its (BAB 4)
(1d8 + 8) + (1d8 + 8) + 4 (power attack)
at a single roll of 4+4-2=6 to hit?

[Archaeik]

Hmmm

Tiger Claw wrote:

While you are using the Tiger Style feat and have both hands free, you can use a full-round action to make a single unarmed strike with both hands. Use your highest base attack bonus, rolling unarmed strike damage for each hand separately and multiplying both if you score a critical hit. If you use Power Attack in conjunction with this attack, can add half your Strength bonus to one of the damage rolls. If you hit, you can attempt a bull rush maneuver with a +2 bonus on the combat maneuver check. This bull rush attempt provokes no attack of opportunity from your opponent, but you cannot move with that opponent if your bull rush is successful.

While I see how it can be read as "damage including all modifiers" I'm not sure that's the intent. I think it's supposed to just be base damage dice.

It looks like the intent of the last part I bolded there lets you treat the attack as a 2H weapon(1.5x str total)

for your numbers I believe damage would be
2d8(1d8 for each fist) + 6(Str/Dragon) +2(DFerocity) +4(PA) +2(TClaw w/ PA)
also, it may be +6 for PA if the 1.5x modifier equates to a 2H weapon strike.

If all modifiers apply to each damage roll, that would include PA.

[Thomas Long 175]

Ok I was curious because the last forum I looked at said to include strength in the individual rolls. Now I can't understand why you would ever use this over multiple attacks. It's basically a slightly better version of vital strike but requiring 2 feats instead of 1. Not worth it I say

[BigNorseWolf]

Thomas Long 175 wrote:

Ok I was curious because the last forum I looked at said to include strength in the individual rolls. Now I can't understand why you would ever use this over multiple attacks. It's basically a slightly better version of vital strike but requiring 2 feats instead of 1. Not worth it I say

Its pretty good for going through damage reduction, which can be a problem for monks

[Archaeik]

Also, I'd probably consider allowing the more powerful version, or at least reduce the action to a standard.

Like I said, it's only my opinion that's the intent. But taken as a whole it seems a bit strange to add even more Str to the damage if it's already being added twice.(once for each fist)
I guess I'm basing my interpretation on the idea that a single attack roll isn't supposed to multiply damage bonuses. But in this case, you do get an extra die that is specifically multiplied on a crit.

I agree it's a bit weak, but MOMS would let you skip this anyway and go straight for the juicy PA penalty to AC of Tiger Pounce.