Dark Blessing Trait Question


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Blessing of Darkness (Tiefling)
Your innate connection with the powers of darkness serves you well when evil zealots pray on your behalf.

Benefit Whenever a spellcaster capable of channeling negative energy casts a beneficial spell on you, she acts as if she were one level higher for the purpose of determining that spell’s effects.

Taken from PFSRD. The way this is written, suggests that a spell caster merely has to do it. Therefore couldn't said spellcaster be myself? I'm playing a Tiefling cleric in an upcoming game and i've spent all week figuring out working builds and working backstory to have my evil wereboar being functional. I was unsure however if this trait implys that I can cast the spell on my self and gain the benefit or if it must be an ally. Because technically the way it is worded simply says a "Spell Caster that can channel negative energy" I apply to both of those.

So heres the TLDR, Does the player himself count as a spell caster?


Since this is posted here, and not in the PFS forums, AND because you can't be a Tiefling in organized play anyway... yes. Absolutely. I don't know what crazy stunts the "game balancers" would try to pull if you could be a Tiefling in organized play and you tried to do something like this while doing so. Maybe they would allow it, maybe they wouldn't.

For a home game though, if any GM reads that trait, and somehow then decides that you can't count as a spell caster when casting on yourself... find a new GM. There isn't anything in the RAW that indicates that you can't count yourself if you otherwise qualify, and I can't really see how it is overpowered anyway.

I mean... unless you have another negative energy channeling character in your party, it will never take effect if you don't do it yourself! And I'd wager that the downside of multiple negative channelers in the group instead of being more well rounded is likely more than punishment enough to "balance" it and let you reap the benefit of 1 caster level increases on beneficial spells.


setzer9999 wrote:

Since this is posted here, and not in the PFS forums, AND because you can't be a Tiefling in organized play anyway... yes. Absolutely. I don't know what crazy stunts the "game balancers" would try to pull if you could be a Tiefling in organized play and you tried to do something like this while doing so. Maybe they would allow it, maybe they wouldn't.

For a home game though, if any GM reads that trait, and somehow then decides that you can't count as a spell caster when casting on yourself... find a new GM. There isn't anything in the RAW that indicates that you can't count yourself if you otherwise qualify, and I can't really see how it is overpowered anyway.

I mean... unless you have another negative energy channeling character in your party, it will never take effect if you don't do it yourself! And I'd wager that the downside of multiple negative channelers in the group instead of being more well rounded is likely more than punishment enough to "balance" it and let you reap the benefit of 1 caster level increases on beneficial spells.

Holy crap dude. They aren't THAT powerful, no idea what organized play even means. Never heard the term and i've been playing DND for like over 8 years at least, and this as soon as it came out. Did get an answer though, gonna see what others think... but thanks for your input.


and yeah right now there is two of us. ones going full necromancer, i'm going evil melee cleric.


Nothing in the text indicates that the spellcaster cannot be you; ergo, go nuts.

Edit: "find a new GM" is more than a bit extreme. The GM has every right to rule otherwise.


Yeah, sorry if my meaning was lost in my rambling and long post. I meant that it doesn't seem overpowered actually, not that it is overpowered. I'm in agreement that it is NOT overpowered. A harmful spell gaining a CL increases its DC for the most part (not getting bogged down in details here), but a beneficial spell mostly will just last slightly longer due to that. There may be other benefits too, but its nothing to write home about as far as I can tell.


Sounds like I can use it then. Which is good cause buff spells are the only spells I will be casting and it would only be on myself.

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