NPC relationship Question


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Ok so the group I'm running is about to start part two of Brinwall legacy. For a few this is where they will be able to start to build their relationship with their trait NPC. For most this wont be a problem, but for two of my players it will be as they chose charisma as their dump stat. The 1/2 orc magus took the Foster child trait, his charisma score is 7....that's right 7....giving him a -2 mod, he took a draw back that gives him another -2 to diplomacy checks he makes when dealing with members of the opposite sex, plus he took another draw back that raises the DC of any diplomacy check he makes by 5. So when all is said and done his starting relationship score is a 2...when he goes and tries to improve it before the caravan takes off the DC will be 7 and he will get a final modifier of -4. Now I know that this should be an easy roll...but if he rolls a 10 or lower he fails.

How should I be treating how Koya sees him and deals with him?


Well, the player chose how to distribute stats and what drawbacks to take. You certainly should not soften his disadvantages; that would be unfair to the other players.

Low charisma... that doesn't necessarily mean ugly, but abrasive and always making hurtful comments. Combined with his traits it means that he always says the wrong things and usually ends up hurting the feelings of the person he talks to.

So I would play Koya as wanting to like/love him as a mother, but being nervous and distant, because he has hurt her so often and deeply.


He is lawful good and playing his character as a kid trying to be like the paladins in the stories he read about, so he comes off very much like DC universe's Captain Marvel trying to be like Super-Man. every time he and the party does something heroic he has run home to tell Koya. I have played her as being all "That's good sweat heart" "I knew you could do the right thing". I was more concerned that a failed roll in the beginning could ruin how she views him even though he would have done nothing wrong, but say the wrong thing.

Thanks for the input


No, she knows him for the last 10 years at least, maybe longer. But as Old Drake said, he probably said way worse things in the past. She wants to forgive him, love him. Maybe she does, but sometimes she remembers some of the things he said or did...

So while a low role at the beginning might trigger such a reaction, it wouldn't be the first time, and probably won't be the last.

And yes, he chose his traits and flaws himself, now he has to live with them.

I'm a bit torn if applying the drawback about opposite sex should really apply here though. By RAW obviously it does. But I guess the intent behind it is, that he has even lesser chance of seducing a girl etc, but this is basicly his mother. Would he really view her as "opposite sex" in the sense of the flaw or just "mother"?
That's up to you, but that's as far as I'd go.

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You can be Lawful Good and still be unloving.

In real life, I was recently at a church-sponsered Cinco de Mayo party. Most people were just hanging out, having fun, telling jokes, etc. But there was this one guy who was just walking up to anyone would listen to him, and in totally oblivious-dork-mode he would proceed to argue with them as to why Calvinism is the only correct Biblical interpretation.

What was I doing? Noshing on chips-n-guac. What was my wife doing? Chatting about "where did you buy that cool costume?" What was the host doing? Getting people to sign up for the pin-the-tail on the donkey game. What were the less-social people doing? Sitting near the TV that was playing Nacho Libre and chuckling at Jack Black's antics.

However, this guy, he had no interest in party games, getting to know other people, socializing, or having fun. He wanted to find people to hammer with his I've-read-more-Greek-than-you and explain to you why you were no where near as smart as him if you didn't believe in the Calvinist interpretation.

To be clear: he wasn't trying to call people heretics, or doing anything that wasn't Lawful Good, but he was interested in talking-and-talking-and-talking-and-talking about these esoteric medieval doctrines that were fascinating to him. And if you disagreed, well, you were dumb, because you didn't read as much the Bible in Greek as he did. But he was happy to sit down and explain, in incredible detail, the exact translation of every word in the passage he was using.

I mean, I'm a Calvinist myself, and I made sure to steer clear of that guy. There were much more interesting things to do at a party filled with people my age on a Saturday night.

I consider that a great example of low charisma, and a good model for your PC's character.

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