strange question...


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I recently read a post about golems and started researching them online.

Under the shield golem it has a section explaining how they get spell storing, and how the golem can cast this spell when told or when a pr-decided event happens. So what's the ruling when that spell is "animate dead" and the pr-decided event is when someone dies. Does the golem gain control over the animated dead and thus the controller of the golem gain control over it through proxy?

Now what about when the controller of the shield golem IS the next to die and the golem casts animate dead on its controllers body? Does the golem gain control over the animated dead and is now the master, does the now undead controller gain control of itself becoming an intelligent undead, is there an earth shattering explosion killing all in the direct area and throwing those close by into another dimension like putting a portable hole inside a portable hole? What's your idea on the ruling here?


The first one seems pretty straightforward. Golem is the caster, ergo it gets control. Golem's master controls golem and thereby controls undead by proxy. It'd be a pretty awkward way of controlling undead minions, though.

The second one is just sad, and would be an interesting situation for the PCs to come across--a golem eternally asking its zombie owner for directions, never to receive a reply. (Technically, it would simply continue performing its last command or, if no command was left, do nothing, but I like the flavor better this way. Consider it stolen.)

If it were create undead (not possible by RAW as it's higher than 4th level), that would be less interesting. Technically, each creature would be the other's master. However, since the creator is intelligent and the golem isn't, the creator is the only one capable of giving commands, so the creator is still in charge. I suppose he could order the golem to order him around, if he's into that sort of thing.


In the first situation yes it would be an aquward way to control undead, but would it be a way around the cap off limit of how many undead you can control with that spell? Softly like one player having his limit of controlled undead AND having the leadership feat with his cohort having control over a few undead too.

And in the second situation I know if I ever said to my pcs "you see a golem and a zombie up ahead..." their first instinct would be to kill both, when all they really have to do is take the pendant from around the zombies neck and they have 2 minions... hey I might throw this into one of my campaigns just for a laugh. Lol

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