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In addition to the host of feats I was previously planning on offering to PCs for free (http://paizo.com/forums/dmtz5jhk?Giving-every-character-11-bonus-feats-Is- this), I'm now considering adding Natural Spell to the list. It gets some flack for being overpowered, but I run a pretty tight ship on it's usability for stealthily casting spells (in my games, it's no replacement for Silent/Still Spell - an animal casting a spell is just as loud and, to those with ranks in Knowledge [arcana, nature, religion], pretty obviously casting a spell). It's one of those feats that's so very "must have" that I'm not sure why it's not a feature of the class itself.
Thoughts?
It's a Tax.
I've seen proposals to make it a metamagic feat.
Edit: O.o
So.. how does that affect it?
Dials back wildshape a bit. More of an issue in 3.5 than in PF, but not completely gone.
I'm mising the 'power' here, you can still complete your VS while in your Wildshape form, thats it.
Doesn't give you any benefit while NOT wildshaped, which means you are paying a Feat for an ability that is only useable some of the time.
If the issue is being able to freely cast while being 'buffed' by WS, then I don't see that as a compelling argument.
Druids are Feat hungry enough as is.
I originally thought the way you did shifty. However I feel their versatility should be paid for in some way.
Why? They are paying a Feat for that versatility.
Wildshape is generally the thing most mismanaged - "The form chosen must be that of an animal the druid is familiar with" being the most significantly missed line in the core rulebook.
I also question why use of a class ability should be the reason to limit the use of other abilities... do you stop Barbarians using their Feats while raging? Can a Paladin still be self buffed and then Smite as well?
I'm just not seeing it.
Why? They are paying a Feat for that versatility.
Wildshape is generally the thing most mismanaged - "The form chosen must be that of an animal the druid is familiar with" being the most significantly missed line in the core rulebook.
I also question why use of a class ability should be the reason to limit the use of other abilities... do you stop Barbarians using their Feats while raging? Can a Paladin still be self buffed and then Smite as well?
I'm just not seeing it.
Correct, you take feats to become better at something. My DM and I both agree that you know the forms of creatures that are on sna list. A lot of classes have "feat taxes" and the druid isn't an exception. Just accept it and move on, the druid is already an extremely good class.
Its a feat tax, but Druids can afford it.
Oh I am not saying they SHOULDN'T have to pay the Feat Tax as it stands, I am just not so ok with making it the more restricted Meta-Magic feat as described above by Cheapy and ToZ.
I'm on the same boat as you then shifty.