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I have an idea of making the ultimate enchanter. I'm trying to get his enchantment DC's as high as possible in the Compulsion subschool. Here's my idea.
Class lvl 20 Sorcerer Fey Bloodline +2 Compulsion DC's
Traits: Magical Lineage Overwhelming Presence, Reactionary +2 Initiative
Feats:
1st Spell Focus: Ench, +1 Ench DC's
3rd Gr. Spell Focus: Ench, +1 Ench DC's
5th Spell Penetration
7th Gr. Spell Penetration
7th Sorcerer Bonus Feat: Skill Focus Knowledge Nature
9th Eldritch Heritage: Arcane Bloodline
11th Metamagic Persistent Spell (+2 higher)
13th Improved Eldritch Heritage: Arcane Bloodline
13th Sorcerer Bonus Feat: Metamagic Quicken Spell (+4 higher)
15th Metamagic Focus Spell (+1 higher)
17th Greater Eldritch Heritage: Arcane Bloodline +2 Ench DC's
19th Sorcerer Bonus Feat: Improved Initiative
19th Spell Perfection: Overwhelming Presence
36 Charisma = +13 save DC's
Total = +20 to compulsion DC's
I would Use Necromancy as my backup school to lower enemies saving throws with quicken spell, or even a quickened Mind fog. I would then use metamagic Persistent Spell to one of my 5th level Enchantment spells: Hold Monster, Dominate Person. Or I would use Metamagic Persistant spell & MM Focused Spell on my 6th level Mass Suggestion. My other option would be my 9th level spell (metamagic'd with Focus Spell) Overwhelming Presence.
So In the above examples i would try to lower my enemies S.T.'s then make them save 2x, and for the aoe's I would make one target save with a +2 to its DC. I think Overwhelming Presences' DC would be 41, and 43 to one of the targets in the aoe.
I was hoping someone here would have some advice/knowledge on how to make my character idea better, or correct me if i'm in error somewhere. If you know any ways to increase my Compulsion DC's please post. Thank you.
Another option that would trump a kitsune fey-blood sorcerer at epic levels would be a Controller specialized enchanter wizard. The capstone, Force of Will, affects targets who save as if they had failed for one round. So the DC really doesn't matter as much, particularly if you can capitalize on the helpless status of your targets of Overwhelming Presence by having other party members perform coups de grace on them. Before that capstone, though, the fey-blood sorcerer would probably be better as a one trick pony Enchanter.
I have an idea of making the ultimate enchanter. I'm trying to get his enchantment DC's as high as possible in the Compulsion subschool. Here's my idea.
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I would Use Necromancy as my backup school to lower enemies saving throws with quicken spell, or even a quickened Mind fog. I would then use metamagic Persistent Spell to one of my 5th level Enchantment spells: Hold Monster, Dominate Person. Or I would use Metamagic Persistant spell & MM Focused Spell on my 6th level Mass Suggestion. My other option would be my 9th level spell (metamagic'd with Focus Spell) Overwhelming Presence.
So In the above examples i would try to lower my enemies S.T.'s then make them save 2x, and for the aoe's I would make one target save with a +2 to its DC. I think Overwhelming Presences' DC would be 41, and 43 to one of the targets in the aoe.
I was hoping someone here would have some advice/knowledge on how to make my character idea better, or correct me if i'm in error somewhere. If you know any ways to increase my Compulsion DC's please post. Thank you.
What do you mean with Eldritch Heritage: Bloodline Arcana? You can get Bloodline Powers with eldritch heritage, but not Bloodline Arcana. I also did not spot which bloodline you are referring to.
This was just a quick check, I'll try to look at it more closely later.
What do you mean with Eldritch Heritage: Bloodline Arcana? You can get Bloodline Powers with eldritch heritage, but not Bloodline Arcana. I also did not spot which bloodline you are referring to.This was just a quick check, I'll try to look at it more closely later.
Whoops, Arcane Bloodline. My bad.
Another option that would trump a kitsune fey-blood sorcerer at epic levels would be a Controller specialized enchanter wizard. The capstone, Force of Will, affects targets who save as if they had failed for one round. So the DC really doesn't matter as much, particularly if you can capitalize on the helpless status of your targets of Overwhelming Presence by having other party members perform coups de grace on them. Before that capstone, though, the fey-blood sorcerer would probably be better as a one trick pony Enchanter.
The wizard would definitely trump any other enchanter at lvl 20. My build somewhat maxes out at 17, so I like having the 3 levels of power. Ya he would be a one trick pony, but he would still have good things to do during the round if he couldn't use enchantment, like necromancy, and buffs. His great weakness be fighting undead. The Metamagic feat Threnodic spell would be a great way to get rid of that weakness if i could fit it in the build.
Idk if anyone mentioned this but the sorcerer favored class bonus for kitsune gives bonus to enchantment dc
This: +1/4 to Enchantment DC's so +5 @ 20th.
Sorry about reviving my old post, but I'm finally playing this character in a campaign. Currently he's level 11 and it's going very well. I use buff spells when I can't affect the enemies, haste or heroism, and i took some illusion school spells for backup, Color Spray and Mirror Image.
It's a lot of fun and his dc's are ridiculously high at 11. With the addition to Kitsune's favored class bonus to enchantment dc's every 4 levels, I have a 30 DC to Hold Monster and Dominate Person. It will go up by 1 more at 12!
P.S. I was able to fit in 2 more feats due to a generous DM: Spell Focus Necromancy, and Threnodic Spell. They were campaign gift feats. Everyone got to choose more. Now all the enchantment spells work on Undead!
It's a really good build if you love enchantment spells.