Why is Bless not a Divine bonus?


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My players were "buffing" up for their most recent confrontation when when the cleric cast Bless, the effect of which did not stack with Good Hope that the bard cast because they both provide morale bonuses, which lead to the questions:

Why isn't Bless a divine bonus? The spell is from a cleric, shouldn't the bonus type be divine given what the cleric is explicitly "blessing" those around her?

Suggestions anyone?

Grand Lodge

Probably to prevent such stacking. Also, Evil characters can cast it.

Grand Lodge

Maybe it's a fake blessing and its only your party's belief in it that grants them the bonus. Thus, morale.


Bless is a mind-affecting compulsion effect, that fills you with courage. Its a morale effect.

And as far as I know, there is no such thing as a "divine" bonus. There are Sacred (for holy stuff), and Profane (for unholy). (At least, divine isn't listed on the Bonus Types table.)


Though I'm inclined to go with TOZ on this one mechanically, I think I'm with Exocrat on the fluff. I like the idea that Bless doesn't do a darn thing... it's just a placebo effect.

God wills it! Now charge!


kaishakunin wrote:

My players were "buffing" up for their most recent confrontation when when the cleric cast Bless, the effect of which did not stack with Good Hope that the bard cast because they both provide morale bonuses, which lead to the questions:

Why isn't Bless a divine bonus? The spell is from a cleric, shouldn't the bonus type be divine given what the cleric is explicitly "blessing" those around her?

Suggestions anyone? [/QUOTE

My players have had the same discussion. The prevailing thougt is that
Bleessing and other staples of faith (such as prayer) is one of
The duties of a cleric and as such is by divine will
Therefore have pointed out that bless should be a holy
Bonus to be given or withheld at the clerics god's
Will. (in my campaigns the gods have held back heslings
To those that the god does not like*)

And an evil god can still bless his faithful

I guess it all depends on what focus you give the
Gods

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